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UG 22704-1...Offered Watch...Need Help

  1. watchknut New watch + Instagram + wife = dumbass Jul 7, 2016

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    I am not going to get ino the back story on this one at this point, but I have been offered this watch for $2k.

    Saw it in the flesh today, but could not get to the bank in time for cash, and can pick it up in the morning.

    From what I can see, looks like a replacement crown, and one pusher has damage. Needs a service as there is some chrono creep. Case looks pretty sharp, lightly polished, but nice bevels.

    Any insight would be greatly appreciated, as I have never even considered these watchest.

    Thanks in advance.
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  2. ELV web Jul 7, 2016

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    Looks like a valjoux 72 chrono from 60s, will be hard to find a replacement pusher unless you can get your watch maker to fashion one. But I think at the price you are being offered, it is a worthy project. Changing the crystal would probably already make this watch look tons better.
     
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  3. micampe Jul 7, 2016

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    Missing regulator index?
     
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  4. watchknut New watch + Instagram + wife = dumbass Jul 7, 2016

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    Saw that too!
     
  5. OMGRLX a RolexBear in disguise Jul 7, 2016

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    Love the patina on that dial! :)

    (Alas, as I know nothing about UG, I can't offer any other feedback...)
     
  6. Modest_Proposal Trying too hard to be one of the cool kids Jul 7, 2016

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    The Universal Geneve caliber "130" did not have a traditional needle regulator, apparently. You can check out other examples online. It seems normal.
     
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  7. micampe Jul 7, 2016

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    My (non-UG) v72 doesn't have one either, but it looks different. In the photo here you see the F/S markings are far from the regulator, while in mine (and all other examples I find) when the needle is missing the markings are closer and in those cases there is an adjustable stud carrier, which this one doesn't have.

    I don't know what's correct or expected here, I'm just describing what I see.
     
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  8. aap Jul 7, 2016

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    Is it ok not to have "Compax" on the dial?
     
  9. Diabolik Jul 8, 2016

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    That is a lovely watch. All correct apart from crown. You would probably be able to salvage the crystal by grinding it with 1200 wet and dry and then polishing it as it is likely to be original with the "u".

    Movement is a v72-6 or the UG caliber 130. Well worth 2k (a bargain) so snap it up. Plan on spending another 4-5 hundred on getting it to an operational status. Still an amazing deal at that price with a value of at least double that. Break a leg with it (good luck) ....
     
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  10. GeraldLui Jul 11, 2016

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    Absulotely lovely watch, i have the same but with COMPAX script, my has also a replacement crown, all Diabolik explained is a perfect description.
    careful with the caseback, never polish out the numbers.
    Cheers Gerald IMG_1064.JPG
     
  11. watchknut New watch + Instagram + wife = dumbass Jul 11, 2016

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    Thanks for reinforcing the importance of not polishing the caseback. The numbers are just hanging on, and thank God I got to the watch when I did...the watchmaker was going to polish it!
     
  12. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Jul 11, 2016

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    Burning question .....Why is Compax not on the dial?
     
  13. ELV web Jul 11, 2016

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    I think it is the usual UG nuance. The dial does look genuine.
     
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  14. littlesheep81 Jul 11, 2016

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    The same oddity exists in other models too. My slate dial tri from the 60s is also without the "tricompax" wording. But there are other versions with. Both are accepted as legit AFAIK. Not a red flag in this case I think.
     
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  15. watchknut New watch + Instagram + wife = dumbass Jul 11, 2016

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  16. GeraldLui Jul 12, 2016

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    Hi, look also at this older thread, theres a pic of UG 22704/1, no compax, different hands, so all legit in my Opinion
    So we have the dial with SWISS T, and only SWISS, with COMPAX, withouth COMPAX, and legit 2 style hands
    http://omegaforums.net/threads/my-new-one.11704/
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