Tudor Oyster Prince 34 Ref 7909 Bracelet Help

[parrod]

Curious if anyone can help on a bracelet for my Tudor Oyster prince 34 Ref 7909.

From research it seems the bracelet/end link combination that works/is correct is a 7835 19mm with 361 endlinks.
1) Is my research correct?

2) Do either of the listings linked below/found on eBay seem authentic? I realize there may be an age mismatch between the 7909 and these bracelet examples.

19MM TUDOR 7835-19 361 ENDLINKS STAINLESS STEEL BRACELET (13 LINKS)

VINTAGE TUDOR 7835 19MM 361 STAINLESS STEEL AUTHENTIC MENS WATCH BAND BRACELET

3) Any advice when on the hunt for this?

Lastly, more just curious on this one, would a Tudor 6248-19 bracelet with 597 endlinks be possible on the same watch? I struggled to find a direct example of this, so maybe that is my answer...

Anyway, any thoughts on the above would be much appreciated.
Thanks

 

[vibe]

Your links don’t point to specific bracelets

 

[parrod]

vibe

Your links don’t point to specific bracelets

That's strange, the links are working on my end. Will try again here:

Example 1

Example 2

Edited: Aug 27, 2024

 

[vibe]

Post pics, not links

 

[parrod]

vibe

Post pics, not links

Example 1:

 

[parrod]

Example 2:

 

[parrod]

grabbed some screenshots of each listing, there are more photos on each if the above are not enough

 

[vibe]

Rolex blade and Tudor clasp. I think not haha.

 

[parrod]

Yeah I'm realizing my mistake more and more here as I get deeper into looking at this (I am fairly new to this topic as is probably clear).

Do you have any insights as to what these are? Are they actually 7835 bracelets of some period (70s?) where a Tudor clasp of some period (80s?) has been added? Or just overall total fakes? The seller reviews on both are all positive with lots of transaction, but I'm (again) learning here that doesn't have much importance...

My goal was to get a folded-clasp bracelet that works for the Oyster Prince 34. I've learned from some other forums/posts that actually the 257 endlinks would be (more) correct from my Tudor, not the 361s.

I thought maybe these were franken a bit, but seeing as the folded link style bracelet would not have been original to my particular Tudor anyway, there may be some savings to be had with having this more franken bracelet, over shelling out for a perfect Rolex example (which seem to run 2x-4x the cost, minimum). That being said I don't want to spend even the fraction of the cost for a complete fake- would instead just get a Forstner rivet replica or something like that for $150 or less...

Edited: Aug 29, 2024

 

[parrod]

Example from eBay of what I think would be more authentic?

 

[Dan S]

The branding of the clasp and/or blades depends on the year of the watch. During a particular time period, a fully Rolex bracelet would have been used. You haven't mentioned the year of your watch.

The bigger issue for me is getting photos that allow you to evaluate the stretch. If you need to have the bracelet rebuilt, it will cost more than the bracelet itself.

Is there some specific reason you are looking in Hong Kong? Is that where you are located?

Edited: Aug 29, 2024

 

[parrod]

Dan S

The branding of the clasp and/or blades depends on the year of the watch. During a particular time period, a fully Rolex bracelet would have been used. You haven't mentioned the year of your watch.

The bigger issue for me is getting photos that allow you to evaluate the stretch. If you need to have the bracelet rebuilt, it will cost more than the bracelet itself.

Is there some specific reason you are looking in Hong Kong? Is that where you are located?

Makes sense, appreciate your insights.

I believe my 7909 to be 1956-1957 given the serial number (162271). From what I've found online/research, a fully Rolex/Swiss Rivet style bracelet would technically be the bracelet that would have been offered during the time. I also found mention of a "Tudorflex" bracelet which I would be open to, but found very little info on that and only 16mm examples versus the 19mm I would need.

I was going for the 7835/folded link bracelet type, as the Swiss Rivets looked to be even more difficult/expensive to acquire.

My 7909 has a refinished dial, so already it is not directly about collectability for me- I am just fond of the watch and would like to pair it with a nice vintage (50's to 80's) bracelet that will work.
I agree, possible stretch on any of these eBay listings seems to be somewhat a crapshoot on what it will be upon arrival.
I am located US West Coast, no attachment to Hong Kong sellers.

 

[Dan S]

A 7205 bracelet won’t be much more expensive tbh, so I’d suggest adding that to your search. All of the 19mm bracelets are so cheap compared to the 20mm versions. Rivet bracelets are my favorite.

Stretch is not a crapshoot if you request a proper photo with the bracelet curved to its limit.

 

[parrod]

I should have looked more/got too focused on the 7835 - the prices do look very similar and the rivet style would be more true to the watch (and does look better). I think I will just save up the $500-$700 and look for a good 7205.

I see a lot of listings with 57 endlinks - will those endlinks work with the 34mm oyster case or do I need to source different endlinks?

And noted, I will request a stretch image if I find a listing I am interested in.
Thank you very much for the feedback!

If of interest, here is the watch:



I bought it at a decent price, knowing it was a refinished dial and not superbly at that.
Actually just sent the dial to Carignan Watch Co. to have the dial refinished properly. He indicated he will be stripping, re-lacquering, and reprinting. Excited to see how it returns, maybe will have a 7205 bracelet to put it on by the time it does.

 

[Dan S]

In my experience, the profiles on the endlinks of 7205/7206 bracelets don't really vary too much and are often used interchangeably. The only think to be careful of is whether your watch has lug holes or not. In that era, almost all watches did have holes, but for the rare references without lug holes, you need end-links with cut-outs.

 

[parrod]

Dan S

In my experience, the profiles on the endlinks of 7205/7206 bracelets don't really vary too much and are often used interchangeably. The only think to be careful of is whether your watch has lug holes or not. In that era, almost all watches did have holes, but for the rare references without lug holes, you need end-links with cut-outs.

Ok perfect, yes my 7909 has lug holes.
Again, thanks for the info!

 

[parrod]

Took your advice and focused on the 7205. I'm thinking the below listing which as 57 endlinks.
Any thoughts on its condition?
My takeaways were a bit worn on the coronet and date stamp, and missing a few links (works for me as I need it sized to 6.75" wrist), but otherwise seemed fine given its age. Stretch looks alright but I am far from experienced to judge. If it is more than expected, I will eventually send it to Rolliworks or MY for restoration.