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·i wish i could get the 58 at the the previous iteration of pricing. both new and pre-owned. i will not pay the additional monies. watch should discounted at least 20-30% %like it's big brother.
Tudor Black Bay Black vs Black Bay 58
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watch3s
·tried to go to Tourneau to see if I could finally try on the BB58 the other week, entire rolex sports case was empty and BB58 along with the GMT was missing from the Tudor display case. It continues to elude me! Definitely want to see how much that tube protrudes in really life
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Dsloan
·tried to go to Tourneau to see if I could finally try on the BB58 the other week, entire rolex sports case was empty and BB58 along with the GMT was missing from the Tudor display case. It continues to elude me! Definitely want to see how much that tube protrudes in really life
The tube on my BB41 still annoys me a little if I really stare at it and think about it. But, it's easy to overlook, and I really enjoy the watch overall. I think the tube is a little more forgiveable on the diver models and the GMT, as the bezel balances it out a bit.
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·The tube on my BB41 still annoys me a little if I really stare at it and think about it. But, it's easy to overlook, and I really enjoy the watch overall. I think the tube is a little more forgiveable on the diver models and the GMT, as the bezel balances it out a bit.
thats the thing, i need to see this in person. I have been considering the BB58 practically since it came out and I have passed every time I saw a deal some where just cause I didn't like how the tube appears in pictures. Ive even asked those on here to do a close up so I can see how much that tube protrudes. Im hoping next basel they do one where the Crown screws in all the way.
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Dsloan
·thats the thing, i need to see this in person. I have been considering the BB58 practically since it came out and I have passed every time I saw a deal some where just cause I didn't like how the tube appears in pictures. Ive even asked those on here to do a close up so I can see how much that tube protrudes. Im hoping next basel they do one where the Crown screws in all the way.
Agreed - I can't quite understand why they haven't updated the tube already. For instance, from this angle, I want to know what on Earth the design team was thinking:
But, most of the time, I experience it from this angle, and it doesn't bother me:
In the final analysis, it's not a flawless design, but it is a good value proposition. If I'd had money for an Explorer I, I'd have done that instead. But this is nice for now, and it's 1/3 the cost of the Rolex.
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·Agreed - I can't quite understand why they haven't updated the tube already. For instance, from this angle, I want to know what on Earth the design team was thinking:
But, most of the time, I experience it from this angle, and it doesn't bother me:
In the final analysis, it's not a flawless design, but it is a good value proposition. If I'd had money for an Explorer I, I'd have done that instead. But this is nice for now, and it's 1/3 the cost of the Rolex.
Right? Its not like Tudor doesnt know how to do a screw in crown that goes all flush all the way. Probably the same geniuses that thought this was a good idea to bring back, the world doesnt need a Tudor x Seiko collab!
and yes, luckily I scored a 114270 earlier in the year for decent value, but hankering for 14270 now cause of the tritium dial.
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bgrisso
·Are the BB58 out of stock everywhere? Any news on getting them back in?
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squarelug
·That tube is f*cking hideous, jesus. Dumb dumb dumb.
Love the 58 though!
Love the 58 though!
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petay993
·The 58 has been an unexpected success for Tudor hence the difficulty sourcing one, particularly on the SS bracelet. Tudor have never tried to fill the shortfall despite this watch being in production for at least 14 months.
My understanding is that it was launched as a tribute watch to the 1958 Sub and was expected to have a lively but limited following operating very much in the shadow of the BB GMT which was envisaged as a much more mainstream product.
That has not transpired however due to the desire for a more wearable BB and the perfect proportions of the watch echoing those found in vintage Tudor/Rolex Subs.
I have it on good authority this piece is being pulled before Baselworld 2020 to be replaced by two new models using the same case but running with more modern colourways. These will be three handers possibly blue and red bezel.
My understanding is that it was launched as a tribute watch to the 1958 Sub and was expected to have a lively but limited following operating very much in the shadow of the BB GMT which was envisaged as a much more mainstream product.
That has not transpired however due to the desire for a more wearable BB and the perfect proportions of the watch echoing those found in vintage Tudor/Rolex Subs.
I have it on good authority this piece is being pulled before Baselworld 2020 to be replaced by two new models using the same case but running with more modern colourways. These will be three handers possibly blue and red bezel.
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·the original BB is 41 x 50mm L2L. that's too big L2L for this type of watch
if your wrist isn't at least 7" you're not going to pull it off well. even @ 7" it's not the most ideal imo.
i really want a 58 would luv to see the line expanded and be plentiful enough not to pay full blown retail.
if your wrist isn't at least 7" you're not going to pull it off well. even @ 7" it's not the most ideal imo.
i really want a 58 would luv to see the line expanded and be plentiful enough not to pay full blown retail.
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petay993
·I think folks need to accept the 58 is, and will remain, a full retail watch or carrying a modest premium on the grey market
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·P petay993The 58 has been an unexpected success for Tudor hence the difficulty sourcing one, particularly on the SS bracelet. Tudor have never tried to fill the shortfall despite this watch being in production for at least 14 months.
My understanding is that it was launched as a tribute watch to the 1958 Sub and was expected to have a lively but limited following operating very much in the shadow of the BB GMT which was envisaged as a much more mainstream product.
That has not transpired however due to the desire for a more wearable BB and the perfect proportions of the watch echoing those found in vintage Tudor/Rolex Subs.
I have it on good authority this piece is being pulled before Baselworld 2020 to be replaced by two new models using the same case but running with more modern colourways. These will be three handers possibly blue and red bezel.
If Tudor discontinue the current BB 58 like you say, I think second hand values will appreciate significantly.
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Hoddspur
·If Tudor discontinue the current BB 58 like you say, I think second hand values will appreciate significantly.
That’s what they said about the 79220N but it’s not really appreciated that much (although is now trading about £700 more than the original RRP). ETA will always symbolise the classic, modern Tudor Black Bay to me.👍
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·That’s what they said about the 79220N but it’s not really appreciated that much (although is now trading about £700 more than the original RRP). ETA will always symbolise the classic, modern Tudor Black Bay to me.👎
and you will love the much less expensve service cost when the time comes as well
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·and you will love the much less expensve service cost when the time comes as well
This as well - wouldn’t ever get rid of it - not even for a different coloured BB58!
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64Wing
·Up to now I've only owned vintage watches, but I'm planning on buying a modern diver shortly. The front runners at the minute are Submariner 114060, a minter 14060m, a Seamaster 2254.50, Seamaster 300 Master Coaxial or a Tudor Black Bay.
As a result I called into the local AD to try on a Black Bay. Coincidentally, as well as the standard in-house BB, they also had dummy versions of the 58 and GMT available to view. For some reason I neglected to take a picture of the GMT but here is the BB Black (top) and 58 (bottom).
I have to say the standard BB is very thick, especially if you're used to vintage. However, it somehow manages to still sit nicely on the wrist and doesn't 'wear thick'. The 58 however is stunning. It lacks the anodised crown tube and the bezel markings are ' gilt' rather than white. I have a reasonably thick wrist but even on me, the slimmer/smaller case still looks amazing. The off white lume is also not as visibly yellow as that on the Seamaster 300 Master Coax. I can see the 58 being a winner for plenty who want a modern watch with vintage proportions.
But part of me has a hunch we'll see a BB58 GMT at some point and that would really check boxes for me
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GMTspeedmaster
·Tudor finally got the perfect size .. 58
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·The GMT 58 may be a while as the movement in it's present format does not fit in that case. As it is a recently developed movement it seems unlikely that Tudor will invest in downsizing it currently no matter what the clamour for a 58 sized GMT which, incidentally, I would love.
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petay993
·That’s what they said about the 79220N but it’s not really appreciated that much (although is now trading about £700 more than the original RRP). ETA will always symbolise the classic, modern Tudor Black Bay to me.👎
The 79220N continues to demonstrate the potential for a substantial premium going forward. Current prices are a little off the top but the push is upwards as you might expect with around 1,500 - 2,000 in circulation. Condition is going to be everything though with NOS or unworn being where the money is.
The leather strap model was made in even smaller numbers and is designated on the warranty card so probably the one to have if you are looking for maximum appreciation in value.
The 58 is going crazy immediately if they pull it looking at the pent up demand.
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engben
·Has anyone been to an AD in NYC recently to check for wait times for the BB58? I work somewhat far from any AD so any help here would be appreciated!
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