Tritium no longer allowed on eBay!?!

rcs914 · Mar 3, 2022

Dan S
[QUOTE="rcs914, post: 1948474, member: 22751"How the hell it's even legal to charge final value fees on the sales tax they are tacking on I have no idea. It's insane.

The fees on the shipping and taxes make no sense. They just do it because they can. I guess it might be logical to charge the modest (~2%) finance fee that PP used to charge for handling the transaction, but including shipping and taxes into the final value amount is totally illogical IMO.[/QUOTE]
I sort of get on shipping, as that is where sellers used to hide profits by charging astronomical shipping fees. But on tax? Absolute BS

Dan S · Mar 3, 2022

ATracyWatches
I have heard rumours that early 6105’s were radium dials and assumed that was the case.

I've also heard these rumors. I guess we would be talking roughly 1968 for an early 6105. Totally aside from the eBay issue it would be interesting to know if Seiko was really still using radium at that time.

And a secondary question would be how eBay would know. Do they check packages with a Geiger counter?

gbesq · Mar 3, 2022

The owners of Chrono24 are probably dancing in the streets over this. Seriously, how stupid is eBay’s management? Even if tritium posed a real hazard (it doesn’t unless you choose to lick your watch dial), it has a short half life so most vintage watches would have very little tritium left anyway. ::facepalm1::

vitriol · Mar 3, 2022

Wlcutter
Seiko 6105 8009 from the 1960s, with tritium lume.

I do not intent to hijack the thread, but that is interesting.
Thought that Seiko has skipped tritium and transition was radium -> promethium -> non-radioactive photo-luminescent paint (LumiBrite). How do you know that 6105 had a tritium lume?

Wlcutter · Mar 3, 2022

watchyouwant
Why on earth would anybody use eBay global shipping or some authenticators ??? Just sell, post, alter the description and value and everybody is happy....why would you obey the auction house, who only wants the commission? Do what you want. Don't do what they want as long as they get their fees. And if you not used or be uncomfortable with international shipping, learn something new. Obeying orders brings you were the young russian soldiers find themselves now in Ukraine. Drills were promised, Death they have to bring now. Use eBay for what it is, an international marketing platform.

There's a great point here, which is that ebay's getting increasingly ridiculous. Less than a month ago, ebay's global shipping program was great when selling to squirmish international folks who didn't want to spend $100 to get something quicker and more securely through FedEx. Now it--like selling $2k+ watches--has fallen under ebay's increasingly draconian rules and systems. That good point leads to a very big open Q: will ebay ruin itself through these moves, at least for folks interested in watches (sneakers and baseball cards aren't much better)? Remains to be seen.

There's a lesser point here, too, about how sellers using ebay are no better than duped just-following-orders soldiers. That lesser point leads to no questions other than: huh?

Dan S
I've also heard these rumors. I guess we would be talking roughly 1968 for an early 6105. Totally aside from the eBay issue it would be interesting to know if Seiko was really still using radium at that time.

And a secondary question would be how eBay would know. Do they check packages with a Geiger counter?

They must; there was a warning label taped to the package saying it had failed the radioactivity tests.

vitriol
I do not intent to hijack the thread, but that is interesting.
Thought that Seiko has skipped tritium and transition was radium -> promethium -> non-radioactive photo-luminescent paint (LumiBrite). How do you know that 6105 had a tritium lume?

I actually had just assumed, and am now reaping the dangers of that verb.

Tony C. · Mar 3, 2022

rcs914
How the hell it's even legal to charge final value fees on the sales tax they are tacking on I have no idea

Here in Portugal, goods that come from outside the EU are taxed heavily, including the cost of shipping. Totally indefensible to any fair-minded person, but, as Dan suggests, they do it because they can.

Foo2rama · Mar 3, 2022

Someone reported it it as prohibited item….

dmtowl · Mar 3, 2022

Help I bought a tritium watch from ebay and have mutated into the incredible hulk!

Maybe now I can wear some panerai watches

gbesq · Mar 3, 2022

Gee, I wonder what eBay would do with my Omega Ranchero? With all that radium and a half life of 1,600 years, they would probably shield it in lead and start a Superfund site. ::facepalm1::

connieseamaster · Mar 3, 2022

Oh boy. I'm really gonna have to move "find better hunting grounds" to the top of my to-do list.

NGO1 · Mar 3, 2022

Here's a workaround...

You can create an Ebay listing, simultaneously put the item for sale on your IG, for 5% less. Then add IG listing's url on the Ebay page. Encourage buyers to contact you via IG.

It's not a viable business practice if you have a monthly quota. Ebay will soon catch up to your shenanigan. But if you only sale your high value junks once or twice a month, this should work.

You avoid Ebay checkout entirely. Just pay for their listing fee. It's a workaround I see some "creative" sellers do.
I support the sellers and almost always buy from their IG.

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Wryfox · Mar 3, 2022

Wow, now if there only a place on the internet where you might be able to sell an OMEGA speedmaster dial.... 😗

rcs914 · Mar 3, 2022

rcs914
speaking of ebay being a stupid company - I just sold a rare model of the titanic which was a Scholastic book/toy in the early 2000s. They have gone out of production and they are now astronomically expensive for what they are. Mine sold for the lowest price one has gone for lately at $555.

But back to the stupid. The sale price was $555, plus $20 shipping. Then ebay tacked on nearly $35 tax for the buyer, and then proceeded to turn around and charge me a 12.9% final value fee on the ENTIRE amount - all $609 including tax that the buyer paid. Total fees charged of $79 almost, for an effective 15% charge on what I will get from the sale, as proceeds after fees and shipping will be maybe $475 if I'm lucky.

How the hell it's even legal to charge final value fees on the sales tax they are tacking on I have no idea. It's insane.

ngo516
Here's a workaround...

You can create an Ebay listing, simultaneously put the item for sale on your IG, for 5% less. Then add IG listing's url on the Ebay page. Encourage buyers to contact you via IG.

It's not a viable business practice if you have a monthly quota. Ebay will soon catch up to your shenanigan. But if you only sale your high value junks once or twice a month, this should work.

You avoid Ebay checkout entirely. Just pay for their listing fee. It's a workaround I see some "creative" sellers do.
I support the sellers and almost always buy from their IG.

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Just as an FYI if ebay determines that you have been exchanging contact information with a buyer, they can charge the seller the final value fees. It seems asinine in the extreme, but they do it.

I will say that on some of the purchases I've made when I've looked up the sellers website outside of ebay, they were charging the same price as they did on ebay, which is kind of dumb.

84CJ7 · Mar 3, 2022

Sooo.....smoke detectors are off? They have a radioacitive source in them

cicindela · Mar 3, 2022

You will just have to add 200 bucks to what you would normally charge just to make up for the aggravation and loss. 😗

Dan S · Mar 3, 2022

rcs914
I will say that on some of the purchases I've made when I've looked up the sellers website outside of ebay, they were charging the same price as they did on ebay, which is kind of dumb.

Could be a fair compromise and a win-win anyway, since you're probably not paying sales tax if you buy directly from them.

Evitzee · Mar 3, 2022

It's very easy to laugh and heap scorn on eBay for a policy like this, but I doubt they dreamed this up on their own. Anybody who lives in the great state of California, or buys anything made or marketed in that state, is aware that most products carry some sort of warning label stating it may cause cancer, be harmful to pregnant women or may be dangerous to the user's health for other reasons. Some busy body government functionary most likely came up with this goofy idea and eBay, being a good government rules following CA company, just went along with it. It's no skin off their nose, and they weren't going to go to bat for a sliver of their business. It's just more nannyism that is creeping more and more into our lives. Anybody selling watches needs to find alternative sites.

Even the auction houses are caving to these sorts of rules. Most of the houses now remove or destroy any crocodile straps on watches they sell. In fact I believe I read it is now illegal to ship a croc strap into CA on a watch, even if it came from the US and is used. The auction houses have wimped out as well.

pdxleaf · Mar 3, 2022

Someone should tell Ebay that bananas emit radiation. It'd be fun to watch their heads explode.

cicindela · Mar 4, 2022

I’ve heard that most of items sold on eBay have been shown have germs on them. 😲

pdxleaf · Mar 4, 2022

cicindela
I’ve heard that most of items sold on eBay have been shown have germs on them. 😲

Germs couldn't survive on this,

Tritium no longer allowed on eBay!?!

rcs914

Dan S

gbesq

vitriol

Wlcutter

Tony C.

Foo2rama

dmtowl

gbesq

connieseamaster

NGO1

Wryfox

rcs914

84CJ7

cicindela

Dan S

Evitzee

pdxleaf

cicindela

pdxleaf

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