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·Yes, I thought along similar lines but have been shown evidence of the grey market dealer’s sale the seller bought it from..
Trilogy LE values
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·I’m led to believe that the original omega dealer withheld the full set on sale to the gray market dealer so as not impact relationship with the brand... happy to hear thoughts on this...
Thanks again!
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·There’s a couple of boxes on eBay, but circa £500 each.
Personally I’d want a full set and I’d assume others would further down the line if you were to sell.
Personally I’d want a full set and I’d assume others would further down the line if you were to sell.
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·There’s a couple of boxes on eBay, but circa £500 each.
Personally I’d want a full set and I’d assume others would further down the line if you were to sell.
My query is more regarding the reduction in value for not having the full set... perhaps I should start a fresh thread rather than hijack this one but seemed quite an appropriate thread to raise it on.
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·Hi, I’m considering a SM LE trilogy which is very reasonably priced at £3,200, worn for a couple of weeks but with no papers box etc.
Buying mainly as I love the watch but what’s thoughts on price considering the lack of box/paperwork etc?
Thanks
Speaking for myself here, but IMO the box and accessories add a lot of value to my Trilogy piece, and I'd be wary of any model that shipped without those as well as without papers. It's a collector's edition, after all, quite apart from concerns about authenticity, service history and whether it might have been stolen.
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·Speaking for myself here, but IMO the box and accessories add a lot of value to my Trilogy piece, and I'd be wary of any model that shipped without those as well as without papers. It's a collector's edition, after all, quite apart from concerns about authenticity, service history and whether it might have been stolen.
Totally, there is value in the full set but is there circa £2,000 approx of value (if bought new from omega) or approx £700 plus in the secondhand market...?
I appreciate it’s a rather subjective question however!
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·I’m led to believe that the original omega dealer withheld the full set on sale to the gray market dealer so as not impact relationship with the brand... happy to hear thoughts on this...
Thanks again!
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·Usually a grey market watch will include everything EXCEPT the Warranty Card, it's a bit odd to not have the box or included accessories as they aren't serialized. Your supposition may be correct but it would be a yellow flag to me. Price is probably below original dealer wholesale. Odd.
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·Thanks, that’s very helpful! I’ve never bought from grey market... Assuming it’s not stolen, OB will verify that hopefully, what other possible “issues” could there be?
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·Great advice, many thanks (yep aware it’s now a used watch, sorry I was referring to the original purchase ie that usually come with everything except the warranty card)!
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·I don't see time being particularly kind the the trilogy range, I've never had the urge to buy any of them and I don't see that changing any time soon.
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·I’ll call omega tomorrow but does anyone know if the boutiques have a database of stolen watches (I assumed they would and hence would check whilst going through with transaction)?
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·I realize that this is entirely speculation, but based on other LE releases in the past (and we know Omega makes too many of them) when do you think the values of the Trilogy pieces will return to match their retail prices?
I purchased my Railmaster new from my O.B. for the full retail price and now I’m seeing them being sold NIB for 2/3 that price. Lightly used, closer to 1/2 of the retail price. I know that the Railmaster is probably the least popular of the three, but I see that Trilogy Speedmasters and Seamasters have taken a similar hit.
Not that I’m planning to sell soon, but possibly some day....based on the performance of similar previous offerings, when will prices rebound? 10 years? 20 years?
doesn't even look like these watches have hit bottom yet. but you really never know when you hit bottom
prices are down more than they were were a couple of months ago. inventory seems to be readily available.
it's really time to buy now. new or pre-owned....
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·I don't see time being particularly kind the the trilogy range, I've never had the urge to buy any of them and I don't see that changing any time soon.
i agree with this. i completely understand a brand drawing from its vintage history to create a new watch that looks old. i love my bb58! i have no idea why anyone wants to wear a modern copy of a vintage masterpiece. its like having an art poster vs the actual painting. . .
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·I don't see time being particularly kind the the trilogy range, I've never had the urge to buy any of them and I don't see that changing any time soon.
IDK. Not sure why time would be any less kind to the Trilogies than to innumerable other reissues and LEs. The casework, dial, movement, attention to detail and overall package on my SMP LE are top-shelf, and notably superior to the (much) more expensive watch it's replaced. I expect to outlast its vintage antecedents pretty comfortably and hopefully to be worn in good health by one of my kids, or their kids, or so on down the line.
Plenty of reasons not be moved by the Trilogies but hard to fault their quality or the sincerity of the exercise, IMHO.
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·IDK. Not sure why time would be any less kind to the Trilogies than to innumerable other reissues and LEs. The casework, dial, movement, attention to detail and overall package on my SMP LE are top-shelf, and notably superior to the (much) more expensive watch it's replaced. I expect to outlast its vintage antecedents pretty comfortably and hopefully to be worn in good health by one of my kids, or their kids, or so on down the line.
Plenty of reasons not be moved by the Trilogies but hard to fault their quality or the sincerity of the exercise, IMHO.
why on earth would you compare the "build quality" of a vintage masterpiece to a new watch ? the entire point of vintage is that its. . old. vintage. patina
you don't see a lot of car companies coming out with exact replicas of cars from the 50s and 60s . . .because no one would want them.
can anyone think of an exact replica piece that has held or gained value ? i cannot. comparing this LE to other speedmaster LEs i think is a fools errand
and you can STILL buy an actual railmaster for something close to what they asked for the LE. . makes no sense
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·to me. . and to the market
is there another LE that has done this poorly in terms of secondary market vs. retail price ? i cannot come up with anything close
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·i had both the Speedy and Seamaster, at different phases of my collection (last year and this year respectively).
I can see why the Speedmaster is the most collectible, its a 1:1 "replication" of the OG however the fauxtina is abit too much for my liking.
the Seamaster is a real beauty too. Great size (again 1:1 replication), and it wears so well with the modern bracelet.
in an ideal world, i would like to keep both and the original 1957 Speedmaster and the original Seameaster; just for collecting sake.
Value wise, i think they are undervalued at the moment. They are the modern representation of arguably Omega's flagship pieces. If there's a modern speedmaster to collect, other than ST1, i would keep the Trilogy Speedmaster.
I can see why the Speedmaster is the most collectible, its a 1:1 "replication" of the OG however the fauxtina is abit too much for my liking.
the Seamaster is a real beauty too. Great size (again 1:1 replication), and it wears so well with the modern bracelet.
in an ideal world, i would like to keep both and the original 1957 Speedmaster and the original Seameaster; just for collecting sake.
Value wise, i think they are undervalued at the moment. They are the modern representation of arguably Omega's flagship pieces. If there's a modern speedmaster to collect, other than ST1, i would keep the Trilogy Speedmaster.
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