Tokyo Olympics...

MTROIS · Jul 27, 2021

Just watched the finals of the men’s double in rowing… and our Frenchies, Androdias and Boucheron, managed to win and just edge out the crew from the Netherlands despite a little mistake in the last 100m!! They even set an Olympic Record while doing so.
So happy for them!!

As an aside, I learned to row for a few years when I first came to the US, and this is such a technical and physical sport. Insanely tough sport. 👍

ConElPueblo · Jul 28, 2021

MTROIS
Just watched the finals of the men’s double in rowing… and our Frenchies, Androdias

Boucheron, managed to win and just edge out the crew from the Netherlands despite a little mistake in the last 100m!! They even set an Olympic Record while doing so.
So happy for them!!

As an aside, I learned to row for a few years when I first came to the US, and this is such a technical and physical sport. Insanely tough sport. 👍

Denmark used to have a really good record in Olympic rowing, but this was when they still had lightweight rowers on the schedule - a very big dissapointment for the Danish when that got stricken from the program 🙁

Evitzee · Jul 28, 2021

Michael Phelps is doing some commenting for NBC and assuming he is wearing an Omega it appears to be an all black DSOTM model, it certainly does not stand out. Not the type of watch an Omega ambassador would usually wear.

Walrus · Jul 28, 2021

I have watched almost none of the olympics thus far but it’s kind of funny my wife will be watching while I’m reading or having a mental breakdown about my sewer pipe and feels the need to tell me every time she sees the omega symbol, is she being converted?

MTROIS · Jul 28, 2021

Evitzee
Michael Phelps is doing some commenting for NBC and assuming he is wearing an Omega it appears to be an all black DSOTM model, it certainly does not stand out. Not the type of watch an Omega ambassador would usually wear.

See here and here.

Looks like he was "supposed" to wear a Seamaster, but defaults to his favorite DSOTM Black.

mydeafcat · Jul 28, 2021

Archer
Next up was Crispin, up against an archer from Moldova.

Shot strong in this first match generally, and it went very well.

Crispin won in straight sets - scores weren't huge but enough to get the job done, which is really all that matters:

Next up he met the archer I showed above from Bangladesh, who won his first match. This archer shot well - strong quick shots.

Crispin lost the first set, but took the next two pretty handily, but then the other archer came back. So it was tied at 4 set points each. If either archer won the next set, they would advance, and if they tied they would go to a one arrow shoot off.

Talking about making strong shots...

Crispin started the last set and shot a 7 - not good. The other archer shot a 9. Crispin followed with a really strong 10, and the other archer shot an 8. Tied at 17 points each with one arrow to go. Crispin shot a 9 so the door was open. If the other archer shot a 10 he would win, a 9 would be a tie, and anything less than a 9 Crispin would win. The other archer shot what looked like a very good strong shot, but it landed near the top of the 9 ring, just out - it was an 8 and Crispin won!

So he is now moving on to shoot another day. He was ranked 16th after the ranking round, and with this win he is in the top 16, so that is sort of the initial goal - at least equal where you were in the ranking round in the eliminations.

He won't shoot again for a few days, and when he does he'll be shooting against an archer from Germany that came 33rd in the ranking round, so hopefully that will go well. Late night and I'm tired, but it was worth it.

After turning on the TV last night, the first Olympic coverage I watched was a feature on Crispin and his mentor, a woman whose innovative coaching had immediate effect (she stood on a ladder, looked down on Duenas’ form, then suggested a shoulder adjustment that resulted in incredible accuracy on his next series of shots). The little I know about Archery has, not surprisingly, been augmented by Al’s keen insight.

Walrus · Jul 28, 2021

I’m going from memory here but doesn’t John Barleycorn must Die as performed by Traffic refer to archery several times, I shall now listen to see if my assumption is correct

MTROIS · Jul 28, 2021

ConElPueblo
Denmark used to have a really good record in Olympic rowing, but this was when they still had lightweight rowers on the schedule - a very big dissapointment for the Danish when that got stricken from the program 🙁

Being a member of the “lightweight class”, I was also very disappointed to learn that the ICO removed this class from the Olympic rowing program. 😒

Archer · Jul 28, 2021

lillatroll
Watched the mens team archery final yesterday. Unbelievable how close the teams were. Watching it showed how much of a pressure sport it is. The scores seemed quite close, I imagine the pressure gets quite intense. You don't want to be the one who scores an 8 instead of a 9 or a 10.
Mountain biking was quite good to watch too. Very technical. Looking forward to watching the climbing which is supposed to be a great spectator sport.

Archery is really an individual sport, and it tends to attract people who prefer individual to team sports, like me. I don't want to rely on anyone else, and I don't want anyone else relying on me - I want to succeed or fail on my own. That's the way I always saw it anyway, but having said that I have shot the team event on several occasions in international competition, because when you are on a national team, that's what you do.

It was nerve wracking on a completely different level, and as you say the pressure not to be "that guy" is pretty intense. On all the teams I was on, I was clearly the weakest link, and typically the weak shooter goes second in the rotation. Back then the format was a little different so you shot all three arrows in a row for each team member, so 9 arrows were shot by each team before you went to the next set of arrows.

I had actually never shot a team round before I had to do it in competition. It's not something that as individuals who within our country were regularly competing against each other, practiced together. All we had on that day was a bit of practice time on the field before the actual match started, where we ran through it a couple of times. There's a whole dance of how to get to the shooting line and get right back off when you are done, and penalties can be assessed if you cross a line before the previous archer has fully gone past it. So in addition to the pressure of the moment, there's a whole new set of things you have to think about. We actually would grab each other's shorts to hold each other back so we didn't get too anxious and cross the line too soon.

So in this event we drew the top team first, since we were ranked last - that was the US. All guys we knew well, and one an Olympic silver medalist individually. It was a bit like being outside of the body is the best way I could describe the feeling. I shot better than I had all week, my team mates were both solid and we beat the US pretty handily, which was a major upset to say the least. We went on to win the silver medal at that competition, so that means we were in the gold medal match. I had never shot this event prior, so being in a gold medal match at a world ranking event representing your country, was a new place for me to be in certainly. Came down to the last arrow and my friend Shawn (the current Olympic coach) shot a 5. Close arrows on both targets that were contentious calls, so judges were called in to determine arrow scores (if the arrow touches the line it counts to the higher score), and they called our arrow out and theirs in - we lost by a point.

Shawn blamed himself for that 5, but I was very slow shooting my last three arrows, and I didn't leave him a lot of time. It wasn't his fault at all, and if anything it was mine. Felt bad and elated at the same time. It was strange and fun and stressful.

Archer · Jul 28, 2021

mydeafcat
After turning on the TV last night, the first Olympic coverage I watched was a feature on Crispin and his mentor, a woman whose innovative coaching had immediate effect (she stood on a ladder, looked down on Duenas’ form, then suggested a shoulder adjustment that resulted in incredible accuracy on his next series of shots). The little I know about Archery has, not surprisingly, been augmented by Al’s keen insight.

This is the clip...

CBC's The Bond presented by Petro-Canada

That is Joan, who was my personal coach and coached all Olympic archery teams for Canada from 1996 to 2016. Wonderful lady and great coach. Also an accomplished archer, going way back - photo from the 60's when she won the national championships...

The standing on the ladder thing became something we all got used to, because she used that with all the archers she coached.

Archer · Jul 28, 2021

Bit of heartbreak for a Finnish archer who had an equipment failure during a match...

Bottom limb snapped at full draw. Archers have 20 seconds to shoot each arrow, and this apparently happened with 10 seconds left, so not enough time to go get his back-up bow and get back to the line to shoot. He lost that set, which put him into a tie, and it went to a shoot off, but he didn't recover.

Back when I was shooting equipment failures happened, but weren't common. Still we all went to events with two bows, all set-up the same and ready to go, because you just never know what's going to happen. Not sure of the cause, but I do know that the manufacturers are pushing the designs all the time. Back in the late 90's when I bought a new bow I opted for the latest model, and only found out later that there was a slight design flaw that lead to cracks in the aluminum riser (the part that you grip and that the limbs attach to). The design was upgraded and I got a new bow under warranty, and shot that one for many years.

MTROIS · Jul 28, 2021

Archer
Bit of heartbreak for a Finnish archer who had an equipment failure during a match...

Bottom limb snapped at full draw. Archers have 20 seconds to shoot each arrow, and this apparently happened with 10 seconds left, so not enough time to go get his back-up bow and get back to the line to shoot. He lost that set, which put him into a tie, and it went to a shoot off, but he didn't recover.

Back when I was shooting equipment failures happened, but weren't common. Still we all went to events with two bows, all set-up the same and ready to go, because you just never know what's going to happen. Not sure of the cause, but I do know that the manufacturers are pushing the designs all the time. Back in the late 90's when I bought a new bow I opted for the latest model, and only found out later that there was a slight design flaw that lead to cracks in the aluminum riser (the part that you grip and that the limbs attach to). The design was upgraded and I got a new bow under warranty, and shot that one for many years.

So, was that your "3861 moment" in archery!? 😁

Lurk41 · Jul 28, 2021

Archer
It's the first sport to have live data on athlete physiology as they compete

In Olympics you mean? Because it is already shown on screen during MotoGP events since a while 😀

Archer
saw a few archers with the heart rate well over 150 beats per minute.

It shows what the stress/pressure can do.
In MotoGP they do not only monitor the drivers, but also the team principals. During the Valencia 2020 race, Joan Mir from Suzuki was racing for the championship. He could win the title at this event, 1 GP before the end of the season. During the whole race, the heart rate of Davide Brivio, the team manager of Suzuki, was above 110 bpm!

Dsloan · Jul 28, 2021

Olympic Weightlifting has been awesome. The 55kg showdown between Diaz and Liao was neck-and-neck, and resulted in the Philippines first Olympic gold medal ever. My wife's Filipino (and also lifts), so there was a lot of celebrating and crying in our house.

Archer · Jul 28, 2021

Lurk41
In Olympics you mean? Because it is already shown on screen during MotoGP events since a while 😀

Yes, if you had quoted the previous sentence it's pretty clear I think...

"Archery is leading some Olympic innovation at these Games." Last time I checked MotoGP isn't in these Games.

Lurk41 · Jul 28, 2021

I am not english-native so I was not sure of the exact meaning: "Olympic bringing innovation to sport in general", or "bringing known technology to those games". That is why I asked

I just saw the highlights of Clarisse Agbegnenou yesterday, happy for her (and I do not say that for any french judoka, trust me..)

That is the spirit of Judo (and sport) 👍

Archer · Jul 28, 2021

Lurk41
I am not english-native so I was not sure of the exact meaning: "Olympic bringing innovation to sport in general", or "bringing known technology to those games". That is why I asked

Does MotoGP use remote sensors, with nothing attached to the athletes?

Of course anyone who wears a Fitbit has that technology, so clearly it isn't new if it's a worn device.

I sent Crispin a message to confirm with him that he’s not wearing a heart rate monitor for the information that is being broadcast, so this is being done remotely. I had read that this was done by the use of sensors on the exposed skin. If they are able to do this with riders in full leathers and helmets, I would be interested to understand that technology if you have details...

Archer · Jul 28, 2021

MTROIS
So, was that your "3861 moment" in archery!? 😁

Oh yeah for sure - I even went on all the archery forums and criticized the manufacturer for messing up their "legacy" bow. 😁

Of course that's not what I did though, I just contacted the manufacturer and they had a new riser in my hands in days...

MTROIS · Jul 28, 2021

Archer
Oh yeah for sure - I even went on all the archery forums and criticized the manufacturer for messing up their "legacy" bow. 😁

Of course that's not what I did though, I just contacted the manufacturer and they had a new riser in my hands in days...

😁😁😁😁 Haha, Good one!!

Touché (as they say in fencing!!) 😉

The Father · Jul 28, 2021

Dsloan
Olympic Weightlifting has been awesome. The 55kg showdown between Diaz and Liao was neck-and-neck, and resulted in the Philippines first Olympic gold medal ever. My wife's Filipino (and also lifts), so there was a lot of celebrating and crying in our house.

Need a picture or two. My kinda winner.

Tokyo Olympics...

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Walrus

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