Timegrapher recommended?

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Al, Thank you.

When I make a post like the one above, I'm looking for validation and criticism where appropriate.

I hope my post and your comments are helpful to others.
 
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That sounds like pretty good advice, thank you.
I think you're saying that I could faff about with a virtual / app based solution but, although there would be a bigger initial outlay, it would be easier and probably produce comparable results to go for a cheap chinese (Weishi?) timegrapher.
I'm thinking that, based on research and advice given on the thread, that's definitely the way for me to go.

You are welcome. I already had a timegrapher when I found out about Tg, and frankly, downloaded it just out of curiosity. It does show you stuff a timegraper doesn't. I got a cheap contact microphone, and found it worked pretty well without a pre-amp in the PC I used at the time (sadly now defunct) - there's a problem with this Pc in that it has a combined socket for mic/headphone, and I don't have the right converter for a single mic. input, and the mic. on a combined headset doesn't work very well.

In the picture I posted earlier, the watch was just draped over the top of the screen using the built in microphone. Very much not ideal, but just to demo - you can see some extraneous noise as a result. If your Pc has a fan, you don't want it running ;o)

A proper timegrapher is going to be much easier, but as this software is free, and it's fairly easy to get it to work, you might have a go with it first, and see what you think.

Not sure why some folk seem to think it relies on the internet ? It's sofware resident on the PC of course.
 
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You are welcome. I already had a timegrapher when I found out about Tg, and frankly, downloaded it just out of curiosity. It does show you stuff a cheap timegraper doesn't.

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Same with differences in opposing vertical positions - these would be poise errors, and aren't really related to the condition of the movement.
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Do modern watchmaker's still poise the balance, or is the 'factory' state good enough?
-j
 
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Buy the expensive case openers first I think, @noless suggested a 5700 case opener to me and it was the best purchase I've made

If I could do it all over again, I'd buy the snap case opener tool too, where a precision blade is pushed onto a secured case by the device

A timegrapher will likely pay for itself if you sell watches too, but if you just collect and not use, best to not touch watches at all, I think getting them serviced is a waste as well, as oils etc. expire in some years, so if you're just collecting, if the watch is functioning and nothing apparent wrong with it, best to just let it be and not risk anything

With all this said, definitely pull the trigger on the Weishi 1900, apps are annoying and not precise, it was quite a relief owning one
 
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Don't think the Witschi Watch Expert is exactly cheap ;o)

No, but it's far from the most up to date model.
 
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Do modern watchmaker's still poise the balance, or is the 'factory' state good enough?
-j

Static poise - rarely.

Dynamic poise - yes, frequently.
 
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No, but it's far from the most up to date model.
No it is the latest and current model - the G4 version supersedes the G3. Not their most sophisticated device by far, but as a functional comparison with the generic Chinese "Timegraphers" a perfectly valid one.
 
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No it is the latest and current model - the G4 version supersedes the G3. Not their most sophisticated device by far, but as a functional comparison with the generic Chinese "Timegraphers" a perfectly valid one.

Not sure what point you are trying to make here. People here aren't buying Witschi machines to just check watches - if you are laying out that sort of money, you will be repairing watches. There are many so called professional watchmakers who use the Chinese machines...

The cheap machines (yes along with 1 "legacy" Witschi model) don't offer the sort of features the PC based timing systems do. But that doesn't mean there aren't professional level machines that can do the things the PC based systems can.
 
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Not sure what point you are trying to make here... People here aren't buying Witschi machines to just check watches - if you are laying out that sort of money, you will be repairing watches. There are many so called professional watchmakers who use the Chinese machines...

The cheap machines (yes along with 1 "legacy" Witschi model) don't offer the sort of features the PC based timing systems do. But that doesn't mean there aren't professional level machines that can do the things the PC based systems can.

This thread is all about basic, functionally limited & inexpensive software or devices that someone just interested in watches might get, not sophisticated professional kit.

You commented earlier that it's only cheap "timegraphers" that don't do more functionally. Actually, no, you didn't comment - instead you changed the text I wrote to make it sound that I said it.

The "point" was that some expensive professional equipment has similarly limited functionality, not just the cheap stuff, even if far better quality.

Everybody likely to be reading this thread knows that there are sophisticated machines that do much much more. But, they are in no way comparable to what's being discussed in this thread, and, bragging rights excepted, no-one will spend that sort of money unless they need to in order to run their business.

"So called" professional watchmakers can answer for themselves.
 
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This thread is all about basic, functionally limited & inexpensive software or devices that someone just interested in watches might get, not sophisticated professional kit.

You commented earlier that it's only cheap "timegraphers" that don't do more functionally. Actually, no, you didn't comment - instead you changed the text I wrote to make it sound that I said it.

The "point" was that some expensive professional equipment has similarly limited functionality, not just the cheap stuff, even if far better quality.

Everybody likely to be reading this thread knows that there are sophisticated machines that do much much more. But, they are in no way comparable to what's being discussed in this thread, and, bragging rights excepted, no-one will spend that sort of money unless they need to in order to run their business.

"So called" professional watchmakers can answer for themselves.

You indicated that this program indicates things that timegraphers do not. I’m just pointing out that this statement doesn’t apply to all timegraphers....

I didn’t realize this would throw you into such a tizzy, so if I have somehow done so, it was not intended...
 
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Well, that was brilliant, a little heated at times but brilliant.
My question well and truly explored, and with loads of extra invaluable information and advice offered as a bonus.
I've personally learnt a huge amount and, hopefully, other newbies looking in will have benefitted too.
Definitely a cheap chinese timegrapher on the horizon, once the gas and electricity bills are covered!
Thank you to you all, very much appreciated, and to OF of course.
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