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  1. mluz_05 Feb 22, 2020

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    Hi everyone,

    I’m new to the forum and just stepping into the vast vintage Omega world, so I do apologize if anything I’ve posted is redundant or incorrect!

    I’m interested in getting a vintage pie-pan Constellation for myself and tried to read up as much as possible, but one line in this forum stuck with me that was along the lines of “ask [the forum] before purchasing, it’s cheaper than getting a fake/franken” - wise words from knowledgeable people. So I would like to know your opinions on this Connie I am interested in (photos attached):

    https://www.chrono24.ca/omega/const...nty--id14098205.htm?SETLANG=en_CA&SETCURR=CAD

    Cal: 564
    Year: 1966
    Serial: 24253991
    Ref.: 168.005
    Dial: “original dial and hasn’t been touched or refurbished” (dealer message)
    Case: Gold/Steel, dog-leg lugs
    Crown: Omega signed, but not decagonal
    Bracelet: “original beads of rice bracelet” (listing), plus aftermarket new “Omega” leather band
    Glass: replaced (likely not Omega)
    Condition: “Very Good” worn with little to no signs of wear. Fully serviced with seller’s 1 year warranty.

    I messaged the seller for more detailed photos wondering if the dial has actually been untouched as the pie pan and minute markers look a bit off to me. The listing says it’s in very good condition but is noticeably worn and likely polished as seen in the softening of the lugs and case. I prefer a sharper and unpolished model but that’s probably 2x or more my budget, so I don’t mind something that is more worn.

    If the dial is the real deal as the seller claims, is $2000 USD/$1800 Euros steep? I’m working with Canadian dollars so our currency makes it even more expensive to purchase. Would love to know your thoughts and recommendations for other places to keep an eye out for vintage connies to purchase!

    Thanks for your help :)
     
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  2. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Feb 22, 2020

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    A very tired watch with a refinished dial.
     
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  3. Noddyman Feb 22, 2020

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    If this seller claims the dial is original he/she is telling “porkies”. As you rightly note the minute ticks are all over the place and should not cross over the pie pan edge.
    As most dealer know full well what they are selling I would avoid completely.
     
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  4. ConElPueblo Feb 22, 2020

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    The bezel is wrong/fake too...
     
  5. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Feb 22, 2020

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    succinct, to the point and accurate.
    good that you asked here because it's a dog of a dogleg.

    @mluz_05 if you have $2,000 to spend, you should be able to find yourself a really nice dogleg pie pan with a bit of patience.
     
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  6. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Feb 22, 2020

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    I like the fact that they start inside the facet edge at the top and then slide outside at the bottom.
     
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  7. mluz_05 Feb 22, 2020

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    Patience and persistence will likely be the determining factor here on whether I get a good vs great watch - let’s hope I don’t give in too quickly!
     
  8. styggpyggeno1 ΩF Enforcer ....and thread killer Feb 22, 2020

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    That is one of the worst I have seen in a while. For all the reasons mentioned above.
     
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  9. mluz_05 Feb 22, 2020

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    I thought the bezel seemed a bit off with lots of weird wear/dirt around the glass, thanks for pointing that out - I wouldn’t have known it was a fake! I have so much yet to learn :thumbsdown:
     
  10. Peemacgee Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers Feb 22, 2020

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    I'd like to see the inner case back - have you seen the gouges on the bridge? :eek:
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  11. mluz_05 Feb 22, 2020

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    Starting to think this dial wasn’t initially pie-pan and someone with a hammer and a unsteady hand tried to make it so
     
  12. mluz_05 Feb 22, 2020

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    I don’t have a high resolution photo of it, just one from the listing. But I didn’t even notice that until you pointed it out!

    Seems I should have posted this in the worst redials or watches to avoid thread instead of asking if I should have purchased this! Ah how naive and scary first time watch buying can be :oops:
     
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  13. Noddyman Feb 22, 2020

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    At least you did the right thing and asked first which cost you nothing. Lots of folks ask later and get that horrible sinking feeling.
     
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  14. mluz_05 Feb 22, 2020

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    Omega forums came through - Thanks everyone for your prompt and highly knowledgeable replies!

    My trust factor from dealers when purchasing now has been obliterated, either trying to take advantage of newbies like me or just really unknowledgeable in their own product (unlikely, so more the former).

    Thanks for keeping me vigilant everyone! Humbled by how much I need to learn, but we ride on ::psy::
     
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  15. Dan S Feb 22, 2020

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    "As you can see from the images above the original dial has been untouched."
     
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  16. Edward53 Feb 22, 2020

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    Not every dealer is ignorant, a villain or both! About 5% of them are actually ok.
     
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