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the repainted dial completely kills any collectible value.
No where near a $6k watch for me
Yeah agreed. Maybe a touch over half that ($3500 maybe?) which is about $1k for the case + movement.
It’s a chronograph watch with a soft 14k case and a redial.
Surely the movt is only worth what someone with a similar reference would pay (not Speedmaster movt value) or for parts.
Someone who wants a pretty, vintage, 14k chronograph might pay a premium but I doubt anyone who knows what they are looking at and realises what it is would pay anything near $3,500 for this watch.
It's a bit pointless to speculate, but I don't think you can get anything close to $2500 for a generic cal 321. Maybe $1k for parts at most. To be valuable, a cal 321 would need a serial an extract connected to a special Speedmaster.
I just went by 'sold' listings on Ebay:
First I saw was this crusty one for $1200 missing about 1/2 of it: https://www.ebay.com/itm/127294728144?
$2600 for the most recent 'working' version: https://www.ebay.com/itm/226794154544?
$2750, but accepted an offer, but also has dial/hands: https://www.ebay.com/itm/297233640755?
$750 for this one, but it wasn't Omega branded? : https://www.ebay.com/itm/146666231956?
Current available listings:
$2200 but for a bit of a mess: https://www.ebay.com/itm/127339930930?
$2800 for a cleaner one, but claims 'for parts' but isn't immediately clear why it isn't comlete: https://www.ebay.com/itm/204626484852?
They obviously go for a little bit more in Europe, I could easily see that selling for $6k in the UK. Maybe not to a collector, but just someone who wants a nice looking vintage watch. Yes some of the numbers on the dial don't match up, but that won't matter to lots of people.
If you like it and want to keep it long term then go for it, especially if you can argue for a big discount.
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$6k??? Are you the seller?
No one is paying anywhere near $6k for that, even in the UK, unless they’re a complete novice and it’s being sold by a high end dealer with a fancy showroom. By the same token, the same shops sell basic Seamaster DeVilles for $4k. It doesn’t mean they’re worth $6k
If the question is;
Is a high end dealer capable of selling this watch for $6k? The answer is yes.
The question was,
“Asking price is $6,000 with 3-y warranty, serviced this year. Redial, crown original. Thoughts on price considering it's a redial? do these pieces increase in value over time?”
The answer from a collector with even a basic knowledge of vintage Omega watches is “absolutely not. Only a novice would consider paying that for this watch. You wouldn’t get anywhere near that back for the watch if you ever wanted to sell and with a bit of patience you could get a nicer watch at a lower price”.
Just because eventually an unsuspecting buyer is likely to pay $6k, doesn’t mean it’s worth it.