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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerReplacement gold-filled pushers?
All by al not a bad watch. If you can live with 33mm and the price is ok: go for it
Thoughts about this Uni-Compax 12249
All by al not a bad watch. If you can live with 33mm and the price is ok: go for it
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bgrisso
·What do you think about the case and dial?
Replacement gold-filled pushers?
(33mm confirmed)
the pusher caps and tubes are always filled/plated to the best of my knowledge (never solid), either original or replacements. I can't tell if those are original or not, or if they exactly match each other? This is a cool and uncommon reference but would be too small for me, and obviously price is a major factor.
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MarcelGuinchard
·the pusher caps and tubes are always filled/plated to the best of my knowledge (never solid), either original or replacements. I can't tell if those are original or not, or if they exactly match each other? This is a cool and uncommon reference but would be too small for me, and obviously price is a major factor.
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bgrisso
·If I really wanted the watch I might be happier around $3k USD, but anyhow asking seems ballpark reasonable. Hard to set market value when hardly any examples out there. But size is the main issue IMO
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MarcelGuinchard
·Dial looks fine. Best to get clear on case size, hard to imagine 36mm. Crown is wrong. Seems like uncommon reference, and the caseback is very interesting, looks like it has an outer screw down ring for waterproofing? Here's some catalog pics others have posted here and a link to another great UG forum. (I'm not clear the crossover between compax and uni, have not studied, but since we are seeing examples of both, my gut sense probably ok).
The italian example is 1 number away !
https://orologi.forumfree.it/?t=63472246&st=45
price-wise, it’s interesting to note that, at the time, that that reference 12294 was the most expensive one, even more than a la refer tri-compax in gold
(Ex: more expensive than a 12540, which is an aero-compact 36.5mm in gold !)
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bgrisso
·price-wise, it’s interesting to note that, at the time, that that reference 12294 was the most expensive one, even more than a la refer tri-compax in gold
(Ex: more expensive than a 12540, which is an aero-compact 36.5mm in gold !)
what currency is that? Swiss Francs?
if we go swiss francs to usd today, that's $770 USD, and if we go $770 in 1944 to 2023 thats about 13K USD.
not sure if that is the correct way to do the conversion, but if so, that was an expensive watch!
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MarcelGuinchard
·what currency is that? Swiss Francs?
if we go swiss francs to usd today, that's $770 USD, and if we go $770 in 1944 to 2023 thats about 13K USD.
not sure if that is the correct way to do the conversion, but if so, that was an expensive watch!
it is Swiss francs, I think, because the pricing document is both in German and French, which is typical for multi-language countries. I am referring to your post here @bgrisso https://omegaforums.net/threads/thoughts-about-this-uni-compax-12249.155398/#post-2121107
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorwhat currency is that? Swiss Francs?
if we go swiss francs to usd today, that's $770 USD, and if we go $770 in 1944 to 2023 thats about 13K USD.
not sure if that is the correct way to do the conversion, but if so, that was an expensive watch!
In 1950, a U.S. dollar bought 4.3 francs. So the original selling price of the watch was about $165 in 1950 dollars. Not ridiculous.
With just inflation, $165 would equate to about $2,033 today.
However, in the years since 1950, the US dollar has depreciated tremendously against the Swiss Franc. Today, a dollar only buys 92 rappen. So that is a depreciation factor of 4.67.
So that implies a value of about $9,500 in today’s dollars that would convert to sufficient Swiss Francs to keep up with both inflation and the dollar’s depreciation. That’s probably very conservative, as I don’t think you can buy an equivalent 18K gold chronograph from a good watch company for that price today.
So $13K seems reasonable to me.
Source: https://www.measuringworth.com/datasets/exchangeglobal/result.php?year_source=1950&year_result=2021&countryE[]=Switzerland
Hope this helps,
gatorcpa
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bgrisso
·In 1950, a U.S. dollar bought 4.3 francs. So the original selling price of the watch was about $165 in 1950 dollars. Not ridiculous.
With just inflation, $165 would equate to about $2,033 today.
However, in the years since 1950, the US dollar has depreciated tremendously against the Swiss Franc. Today, a dollar only buys 92 rappen. So that is a depreciation factor of 4.67.
So that implies a value of about $9,500 in today’s dollars that would convert to sufficient Swiss Francs to keep up with both inflation and the dollar’s depreciation. That’s probably very conservative, as I don’t think you can buy an equivalent 18K gold chronograph from a good watch company for that price today.
So $13K seems reasonable to me.
Source: https://www.measuringworth.com/datasets/exchangeglobal/result.php?year_source=1950&year_result=2021&countryE[]=Switzerland
Hope this helps,
gatorcpa
you are much better at this than me 👍
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.If I really wanted the watch I might be happier around $3k USD, but anyhow asking seems ballpark reasonable. Hard to set market value when hardly any examples out there. But size is the main issue IMO
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MarcelGuinchard
·Hi everyone,
I decided to pass this watch because of the size, but I still think it's a very interesting watch, and it's OF-validated.
The seller is willing to sell and can lower his price. He looks to be a serious seller, and has been endorsed by another member of OF.
→ Anyone willing to purchase it, I'm happy to share the seller's info
I decided to pass this watch because of the size, but I still think it's a very interesting watch, and it's OF-validated.
The seller is willing to sell and can lower his price. He looks to be a serious seller, and has been endorsed by another member of OF.
→ Anyone willing to purchase it, I'm happy to share the seller's info
