Things were cheaper- not that long ago

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I still see people paying with a check at the grocery store sometimes. I have a hard time making sense of how resistant people are to change, even when it is more convenient for them and less annoying to others behind them. But at least the cashier doesn’t have to call the manager for approval.
This reminds me of a fun story. I was at the supermarket just grabbing a couple things for about $30. I go to pay. All the credit card POS (pun intended) systems were down. It was a fiasco. People were bugging out and didn’t know what to do. Lines of people with shopping carts full of groceries and no way to pay. A few people had checkbooks and were able to proceed. I always carry cash and also breezed through. Although, to be fair I usually carry about $100. If I was there with $200+ of groceries I would have been up the creek as well. Also, I pay for everything with credit because it’s easy and I want those reward points. Cash is just a backup.
 
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This reminds me of a fun story. I was at the supermarket just grabbing a couple things for about $30. I go to pay. All the credit card POS (pun intended) systems were down. It was a fiasco. People were bugging out and didn’t know what to do. Lines of people with shopping carts full of groceries and no way to pay. A few people had checkbooks and were able to proceed. I always carry cash and also breezed through. Although, to be fair I usually carry about $100. If I was there with $200+ of groceries I would have been up the creek as well. Also, I pay for everything with credit because it’s easy and I want those reward points. Cash is just a backup.
Around 1998 I was working at Williams Sonoma in my last year of college (before I got my real job). 3 days before Xmas we lost the entire POS system- whole thing went down in the middle of Holly Jolly Christmas with the mulled cider Dixie cups circulating the store and weary customers wanting to buy their All-Clad roasting pans and cookie presses.

We had an “emergency box” under the cash wrap that had flashlights and 3-ply credit card slips with the manual card roller- it probably dated to the late 80’s.

Nobody knew what to do but since I had been in retail for a decade at at that point, I knew how to use them and how to manually call in a credit card authorization. We were rolling within minutes and plowing through the lines with one person on the phones calling in cards, another manually writing up the sales slips and another wrapping things up for the customers. The younger staff loved the novelty of it- it was actually far more hands on that just running it through a computer.

We didn’t miss a beat and the customers loved the “old time” nostalgia of watching people run transactions manually. It was actually fun….until i had to manually key every transaction into the computer system the next day 🤦
 
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Thanks for the education. I was 10 years old back in 1990, but about 5,000 miles away from the States. My dad would pay in cash to the guy who pumped the gas for him.

I still see people paying with a check at the grocery store sometimes. I have a hard time making sense of how resistant people are to change, even when it is more convenient for them and less annoying to others behind them. But at least the cashier doesn’t have to call the manager for approval.

My mom had a theory about technology. She said there comes a point in a person's life where they stop adopting new technology. For her mother, she said it was the microwave. For my mother, she said it was VCR. She just couldn't figure it out.

Not sure if I'm there yet but I'm getting close. I refuse to tap my credit card for payment and insist on inserting it into the reader. Maybe that'll be my thing. "Hey Boomer, just tap it!"
 
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My mom had a theory about technology. She said there comes a point in a person's life where they stop adopting new technology. For her mother, she said it was the microwave. For my mother, she said it was VCR. She just couldn't figure it out.

Not sure if I'm there yet but I'm getting close. I refuse to tap my credit card for payment and insist on inserting it into the reader. Maybe that'll be my thing. "Hey Boomer, just tap it!"
I don’t like that tapping crap either. Keep up the good fight!
 
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My mom had a theory about technology. She said there comes a point in a person's life where they stop adopting new technology. For her mother, she said it was the microwave. For my mother, she said it was VCR. She just couldn't figure it out.

Not sure if I'm there yet but I'm getting close. I refuse to tap my credit card for payment and insist on inserting it into the reader. Maybe that'll be my thing. "Hey Boomer, just tap it!"

Boom(er)... that's the one (perhaps only) thing my wife is ahead of me on, and even then it's not because I can't but because I won't, tapping the card.
I refuse to, absofuckinglutely will not. It's a principle thing for me ~ like "Is it really that difficult to insert your card that now you have to tap it, really?"
Won't do it.
Will not do it.
Ever.
Flag planted, hill to die on, will not.
 
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In the 1980s, the national jewellery chain stores I worked for, used NCR class 5 cash registers. These registers punched holes in a reel type paper tape which was sent by courier to HO once per week. The only time ever that I worked on Boxing Day (up to 90% off), we were busy! The NCR machine choked on punched paper chads, and paper dust. At the end of the day we had 38 feet of paper detail tape. We borrowed a machine and had to key punch our entire day of business, and that machine also choked! We ended up $28.00 short on the day. What a fiasco!
 
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Another time we were on Space mountain when It broke down, and had to be evacuated off the catwalk.
You reminded me 😵‍💫 second time I rode Space Mountain, I evacuated on the catwalk. Tame by modern standards I know, but the opposing visual and inertial cues about what turns we were making were too much for my lower reaches. That day I knew I wouldn’t make pilot training 🙁
 
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You reminded me 😵‍💫 second time I rode Space Mountain, I evacuated on the catwalk. Tame by modern standards I know, but the opposing visual and inertial cues about what turns we were making were too much for my lower reaches. That day I knew I wouldn’t make pilot training 🙁
I believe they had an 8th dwarf that was in charge of evacuation clean-up.
 
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I believe they had an 8th dwarf that was in charge of evacuation clean-up.
Shitty?
 
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All of this started to change in the early 2000s after the incident where Wal-Mart employees pinned a shoplifter to hot pavement, and the shoplifter died. Caused an industry-wide shift towards non-confrontation. I was LP then at Albertson's grocers in south-side OKC and it was common for me to get involved in physical conflict with shoplifters. Regularly.

It's a wild world, where we've taught people that walk-outs are OK because nobody is going to stop you. I've stopped shoplifters as a private citizen twice, and they were downright shocked. On one occasion I had a store manager tell me I shouldn't have gotten involved.

I get it- but I don't get it.


Drives me slightly insane that doing the right thing is doing the wrong thing, and doing the wrong thing isn't discouraged.

And even better (not to sound like That Guy)... the one G&D (Gas and Dash) I experienced as a gas attendant (and three shoplifting incidents when I worked as a 3rd shift stock boy at the local supermarket) you were not only allowed legally, but encouraged by management, to "engage" the perp... being a big yet fast boy I had some serious fun kicking the shit out of three of those four humans while waiting for the police to arrive (the fourth, a drunk older lady, at the supermarket, kicked the shit out of me while I had her pinned down - bit me seven times and absolutely shanked me in the nuts with a closed fist... I didn't let go of her but man did she leave some physical & psychological scars).

By contrast: my daughter worked PT at a supermarket last year to get some spending coin... she told me repeatedly about shoplifters and what she was instructed to do by management:
"Ask them to please put it back... if they don't and exit the store call the police with the best descriptors you can offer. Under no circumstances are you to engage them in any manner after asking them politely to put the merch back."

I was fυcking gobsmacked at that. World gone soft.
 
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I quit smoking my pipe in 1980. 43 years ago. Then, a 50 gram package of Borkum Riff pipe tobacco was either $1.59, or $1.69. 20 years ago, out of interest, I enquired as to the price of the same 50 gram package of tobacco. $16.00, I was told. My collection has cost me very little since I started spending my tobacco money on it!

Nice to see a fellow prior pipe smoker.

I sold my (small) pipe collection recently because it saw almost zero use since my boys were born. I mostly smoked Mclelland English blends like Legends and Wilderness or W.O. Larsen blends. pretty wild how insanely expensive tobacco get. That one I understand a bit more but still wild.
 
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When I think about inflation, recession and prices I read about the Great Depression
 
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Well after reading all this depressing shit I can say this with absolute conviction -

Jenny, from Forrest Gump, is still a complete drag as a human.

Most hated character on film!
 
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Any little whippersnapper prick calls me boomer…. BOOM! is the next thing they’re likely to hear…..
I refuse to use the self service line at the supermarket, they don’t offer discounts for doing the work yourself, and I prefer that some poor bastard has a job….. Shitty job it may well be, but if it’s the best they can find at the time, it’s still better than nothing.

Time and age has taught me to be beware of new updated packaging, often the opportunity is taken to reduce the contents that you receive.
And claims of “new and improved!” Actually means new and improved profit margins by using cheaper inferior shit in the manufacture of the product.
Limited edition means the total amount issued is only limited by the amount they can sell!

Me cynical?…..Shit yeah, but at least us cynics, don’t get many disappointing surprises, indeed there is much room left for pleasant surprises…….sadly this free space is largely under utilised.
 
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^^^^^^^^^
Cynicism/Realism Interface.

Home, sweet, home, come in, sit down, have a beer!
 
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IMHO "cheap" has to be matched against a monthly salary ...
In the 1980s, an average monthly salary easily bought You a $ 1000.00 Speedmaster
In 2023, an average monthly salary won't buy You an Omega Speedmaster of $ 14K even a Speedmastr of $ 7K
😲
 
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In 1971 a Daytona cost 1275 Swedish kronor. In todays money that is 11 343 kronor. Which is 1087 USD.

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I would have bought the Heuer GMT or the Flightmaster though.
 
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I don't want to derail this thread but I just can't help myself on this. I agree that by-and-large society has gone soft. But in this case I would say society has gotten smarter. Encouraging vigilante retail workers to engage in physical altercations with shoplifters is just stupid. Especially female workers who probably have no martial arts training. What if the guy or gal pulls a knife or a gun? Or just kicks your ass? Or what if the worker breaks grannies hip? Or she hits her head and dies? There are a thousand scenarios where this is just totally not worth the risk and cost of whatever the person is shoplifting. Would you want your daughter getting injured or killed trying to save Shop-O-Rama $50 of merchandise?

I think the approach is right. Confront the person so they know they've been caught, then call law enforcement and let them do their job. I've heard a badass Navy SEAL who could kick 99% of the asses on this planet say the same thing. You just never know who your fυcking with. Even people who don't look like much may have been training BJJ for the last 30 years and will just destroy you. Or somebody is having a really bad day and pulls a weapon. A lot of murders are not pre-meditated. Somebody is just having a really bad day and shit goes off the rails. De-escalate, check your ego, and bow out is the smarter move.

Completely agree, and it is this way at basically every retailer now - you will be fired if you do more than ask them to put the merchandise back. Say you have 500 stores, and at each of those stores you have $2000 in merchandise a week that is stolen. Total cost to the bottom line is $52 million a year. How much is the business going to lose when a single employee is killed because the tried to stop a robber? How much is the company going to lose when the robber is suffocated by an employee? How much theft will trying to stop that person prevent in the future?

Bottom line is that there are some people who are going to steal. You can't stop this, and it absolutely isn't the employees responsibility to put themselves in harms way to try and prevent it.