There's something about a watch's symmetry...

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Here an example that I like
Then you'll love this!


I feel bad that I have to check what time it is......

When I don't know the day or date, I won't know where my watch is either!
 
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This is probably one of the best integrations of a date complication I have seen in modern watches- and I think they got the balance both visually and physically perfect- on my wish list

 
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I don’t mind the date being between 4 and 5, but I don’t like the number being on the diagonal.

So...how do you feel about a date between 5 and 6! My BP here is all kinds of messed up on the symmetry front AND it’s a double frame date window, but I still love it.
 
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I am in the "no chopped numbers" and "mostly symmetric" groups, though for some reason this one with multiple small points of asymmetry and chopped indices has some appeal:

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It depends on the watch design
Here an example that I like

The framed date window like this is really nice. To me, an unframed window always looks like an exacto-blade was used to create it
 
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There are people who actually prefer asymmetry with or without a date complication.

One example that comes to mind is the Aquastar Deepstar.




Actually, there are many watches vintage and new alike that feature asymmetric dials.

I would guess a reason for having the date window between four o'clock and five o'clock is for better viability on the wrist as perceived by the designer when compared with the 3 o'clock position.

To me, it is the overall effect of the watch that counts and . . .

For some odd reason, what I liked last year may not appeal to me tomorrow. 😀
Well summed up! Nice watch....
 
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I think the date works best at the top or bottom.
Like some Longines's have or Hamiltons.



When talking about symmetry this is perfect design for me, no date of course.

 
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This is probably one of the best integrations of a date complication I have seen in modern watches- and I think they got the balance both visually and physically perfect- on my wish list

I think date complications, more often than not, are negative for dial appearance. I agree with you about this one and, IIRC, that design was selected by a public vote from 10 or more designs Tag Heuer proposed for an Autavia re-edition.

IMHO here's a date complication that enhances N-S-E-W symmetry of a dial...
 
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I don’t mind the date being between 4 and 5, but I don’t like the number being on the diagonal.

So the date being on the diagonal is referred to as "suspended" so this is a schematic showing a Date 4 Suspended movement:



If the date is at 4 but not diagonal, it's called a horizontal date, so this is an example of a Date 4 Horizontal:



Just FYI.

Cheers, Al
 
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Did someone say that symmetry is an important factor in Watch design?



Well...

 
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Yes but.........!


You should look up the definition of symmetry...
 
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This date at 4 oclock is not for me. I cannot get used to it.
 
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This is probably one of the best integrations of a date complication I have seen in modern watches- and I think they got the balance both visually and physically perfect- on my wish list

I do love the symmetry and the balance of the watch but the only drawback is why have the date at all in this case. It is so small and blends in with the sub-dial you would struggle to see it. BTW I'm see well but having to stare at and rotate your watch for 3 seconds to tell the date is silly.

I prefer the date window at 3 or 6 but it must be well balanced and legible. My Sinn 556 isn't like this and it bugs me a bit ... too small at the 4 so just get rid of it! Samurai is fine but doesn't blend well with the indices, KS and 6139 day/date windows are a perfect size and match the indices. They also balance with the wording nicely.. finally my Doxa is in the preferred location and is legible but would prefer it be no-date because it doesn't add anything.

In short if the date function looks well integrated I prefer it but not if it looks like they ruined the dial by punching a hole in it as an after thought.

As an aside the date is a complication that I actually use and the day is nice if you can find foreign languages that add something to the watch.
 
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I think the date works best at the top or bottom.
Like some Longines's have or Hamiltons.



When talking about symmetry this is perfect design for me, no date of course.

All three examples are beautiful
 
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And, some manage this by balancing various elements to make it visually
IMHO here's a date complication that enhances N-S-E-W symmetry of a dial...

Thank you. I was searching for an example with a complicated, yet balanced dial, and this is a great example.
 
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I only have one watch that doesn't conform to the normal 3 or 6 date placement and have to say it doesn't bother me too much although I understand points made by others
 
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In general, date at 12 or at 6 look the best IMHO.

Maybe it is because they are usually not added next to another number, to the contrary of the other positions (doesn't matter too much if suspended or horizontal - I like to use new words 😁)... For example I think the 4:30 looks good on the B&R or the Sinn above, or the AP. But on the Zenith... Not my cup of tea
I do the same observation about my Khaki Field next to my De Ville. Both have a date at 3. On the Khaki, it is just at the left of the "3", so the area is a bit busy.. On the De Ville, the only number on the dial is the date, and it looks quite good

For whatever reason, I don't like the date on the Fifty Fathoms either. Maybe because the indices are too fat to add a date close to them

What a watch🥰
What's the 2 "middle dials" for BTW? Seem to rotate and the outer one has only multiples of 9?
 
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I only have one watch that doesn't conform to the normal 3 or 6 date placement and have to say it doesn't bother me too much although I understand points made by others

Now, this to me is the best looking 4 o'clock date in this thread, even though it's usually not my thing. Horizontal, not suspended.
 
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So the date being on the diagonal is referred to as "suspended" so this is a schematic showing a Date 4 Suspended movement:



If the date is at 4 but not diagonal, it's called a horizontal date, so this is an example of a Date 4 Horizontal:



Just FYI.

Cheers, Al
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again....I learn stuff on this forum!