The Updated Bracelet For The Omega Speedmaster Professional 3861 — Here Is What’s New!

Robert-Jan · Jan 17, 2023

Since the end of last November, the Omega Speedmaster Professional 310.30.42.50.01.001 (Hesalite) and 310.30.42.50.01.002 (sapphire) models have been leaving the production facility in Bienne with a long-awaited bracelet upgrade with an easy-adjustment clasp. It was long-awaited because, when the current Speedmaster Moonwatch was introduced in early 2021, it was one of the few critiques that […]

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cej2007 · Jan 17, 2023

Robert-Jan

Since the end of last November, the Omega Speedmaster Professional 310.30.42.50.01.001 (Hesalite) and 310.30.42.50.01.002 (sapphire) models have been leaving the production facility in Bienne with a long-awaited bracelet upgrade with an easy-adjustment clasp. It was long-awaited because, when the current Speedmaster Moonwatch was introduced in early 2021, it was one of the few critiques that […]

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Thanks for the update! Just picked my sapphire version Friday (with the old clasp).

Happen to know how many points of adjustment there are in the new one?

Morlock · Jan 17, 2023

R-J. Thanks for the heads up.

Evitzee · Jan 17, 2023

cej2007
Happen to know how many points of adjustment there are in the new one?

I was under the impression it was just one point....a 2.3 mm (half link) adjustment.

chiefenergy · Jan 17, 2023

Congrats cej2007, enjoy your new piece, its awesome!

Marty McDawg · Jan 17, 2023

Do we know the specific part number for the bracelet?

MTROIS · Jan 17, 2023

I know this opinion will not be popular… but I don’t get the attraction of this “new” bracelet, or rather, this new clasp. After all, it does not offer more flexibility than the previous version with the holes (for which a simple toothpick allows you to make the micro adjustment), but especially to me, these two screws used on the new clasp next to the push button look really cheap!
Anyhow, hopefully the 3861 Speedy with the “old” 1st Gen bracelet will be heavily discounted as a result… 🙄

SC1 · Jan 17, 2023

Great write-up, thank you @Robert-Jan .

So if I read everything correctly, old clasp has the same adjustability as new clasp except new can be adjusted with the push button and old clasp needs adjusting with a toothpick, safety pin, watch tool, erect yard gnome penis or some other device that is small in diameter and rigid.

What's weird to me, why upgrade to this clasp if the total amount of adjustability is the same as the original "analog" clasp?
Have to admit I was pretty gung ho on getting the new clasp, I love the adjustability for instance of both of my '57 Trilogy clasps ~ Seamaster & Railmaster, but if the end result is the same "one hole fore or aft" it doesn't seem worth the upgrade to me.

I wish the big Ω had given the new clasp at least two if not three "clicks" of adjustment and I would have definitely purchased.

Evitzee · Jan 18, 2023

SC1
Great write-up, thank you @Robert-Jan .

So if I read everything correctly, old clasp has the same adjustability as new clasp except new can be adjusted with the push button and old clasp needs adjusting with a toothpick, safety pin, watch tool, erect yard gnome penis or some other device that is small in diameter and rigid.

What's weird to me, why upgrade to this clasp if the total amount of adjustability is the same as the original "analog" clasp?
Have to admit I was pretty gung ho on getting the new clasp, I love the adjustability for instance of both of my '57 Trilogy clasps ~ Seamaster & Railmaster, but if the end result is the same "one hole fore or aft" it doesn't seem worth the upgrade to me.

I wish the big Ω had given the new clasp at least two if not three "clicks" of adjustment and I would have definitely purchased.

The original clasp had an unsightly notch in the bracelet when extended so for aesthetic reasons it had no practical adjustment, hence the reworked setup with a 4 mm longer clasp to cover the extended bracelet. But it's only 2.3 mm, a half link of adjustment. That's lame, imo. Yet people are quivering at this pretty small adjustment, like it's the invention of the year. People have convinced themselves that they absolutely need to make this adjustment on the fly and that a half link of adjustability solves their fitment problems. God bless.

SC1 · Jan 18, 2023

Evitzee
The original clasp had an unsightly notch in the bracelet when extended so for aesthetic reasons it had no practical adjustment, hence the reworked setup with a 4 mm longer clasp to cover the extended bracelet. But it's only 2.3 mm, a half link of adjustment. That's lame, imo. Yet people are quivering at this pretty small adjustment, like it's the invention of the year. People have convinced themselves that they absolutely need to make this adjustment on the fly and that a half link of adjustability solves their fitment problems. God bless.

Where's the "unsightly notch"? I have the 3861 Hesalite Professional... I am not finding the notch of unsightliness in the clasp or are you talking about a different Speedmaster bracelet?

MTROIS · Jan 18, 2023

SC1
Where's the "unsightly notch"? I have the 3861 Hesalite Professional... I am not finding the notch of unsightliness in the clasp or are you talking about a different Speedmaster bracelet?

It is only visible when you have used the micro adjustment to extend the clasp by a half link. Here is a pic of what it looks like on my moonshine:

Evitzee · Jan 18, 2023

SC1
Where's the "unsightly notch"? I have the 3861 Hesalite Professional... I am not finding the notch of unsightliness in the clasp or are you talking about a different Speedmaster bracelet?

As illustrated the notch is only visible when you extend the bracelet. I have the 3861 bracelet, too, and I would not be very happy if I had to use the extended position to get a good fit, the notch is ugly. Fortunately the removal of two links on the 6 o'clock side and one on the 12 o'clock side gave me a perfect fit on my 7.5 inch wrist. I found the same on the 321 Ed White and Trilogy Speedmaster...three links out and I'm good to go. I've never used the multipoint adjustment clasp on the Trilogy, just not needed. A bigger wrist is easier to fit, shape of the wrist is a factor, too. Skinny, bony wrists are a problem.

The new clasp is an improvement for sure, but just a half link adjustment and a longer clasp are a bit of a letdown. I just don't like these longish clasps, small is better for me.

WastedYears · Jan 18, 2023

As an explanation for those who don't get why this is importan to some, I, like many others, have wrists that swell through out the day. They also are of different size depending on the season, so that I often have to add a half or full link to those bracelets than aren't adjustable (I'm looking at you Grand Seiko) when summer rolls around, and remove them again come winter.
On a Rolex, I will often open up the Easylink at some point during the day, just to make things more comfortable. Being able to now do that with the Speedmaster is somewhat of a game changer. And I'd much rather drop the couple hundred CHF for this than having to pull out a tool and adjust it every day that I wear my Speedy. And then there's that unsightly gap.

SC1 · Jan 18, 2023

I've never had to adjust my 3861 to its outer setting... yes, that is definitely a notch and not really very good looking at that.

Skinny & bony here but very glad my bracelet fits very nicely in both the cool of winter and blast furnace of summer here.

Duckie · Jan 18, 2023

Evitzee
The original clasp had an unsightly notch in the bracelet when extended so for aesthetic reasons it had no practical adjustment, hence the reworked setup with a 4 mm longer clasp to cover the extended bracelet. But it's only 2.3 mm, a half link of adjustment. That's lame, imo. Yet people are quivering at this pretty small adjustment, like it's the invention of the year. People have convinced themselves that they absolutely need to make this adjustment on the fly and that a half link of adjustability solves their fitment problems. God bless.

I'm in the camp where I fit them up a little on the lose side anyway and with short links like the ones on this bracelet it's much easier to get a sort of universal fitment that works year in year out. It's a set it and forget it approach for me👍

georgiadawgger · Jan 18, 2023

New clasp will be at my AD in about 8 weeks. I think he said $350? Might have been lower.

blueteg · Jan 19, 2023

Marty McDawg
Do we know the specific part number for the bracelet?

Per the Robert-Jan article:
"If you have the current Speedmaster Professional with the steel “Nixon” bracelet, you can also order the clasp separately (part number 117STZ013899)"

blueteg · Jan 19, 2023

SC1
I wish the big Ω had given the new clasp at least two if not three "clicks" of adjustment and I would have definitely purchased.

The 'problem' with a clasp that offers a wide range of tool-less adjustability is that you end up with a massively long clasp, like the Rolex Glidelock unit. I purchased a new Submariner last year and while I can appreciate the wide range of adjustment, and robust construction of the milled clasp, it takes up a substantial amount of the bracelet on the underside of the wrist, and IMHO feels bulky and cumbersome relative to the rest of the bracelet.

Evitzee · Jan 19, 2023

blueteg
The 'problem' with a clasp that offers a wide range of tool-less adjustability is that you end up with a massively long clasp, like the Rolex Glidelock unit. I purchased a new Submariner last year and while I can appreciate the wide range of adjustment, and robust construction of the milled clasp, it takes up a substantial amount of the bracelet on the underside of the wrist, and IMHO feels bulky and cumbersome relative to the rest of the bracelet.

That's my position as well, once you start building in a lot of adjustment the clasp gets longer and often bulkier. In the case of the 3861 bracelet Omega wanted the clasp to be no wider than the bracelet for a smooth look. That was a design decision, but that didn't make it easy to extend the bracelet, it gave us the notch which was a real faux pas to almost everyone, which has now been addressed by a longer clasp with a half link adjustment. Omega should have thought about this harder when the bracelet was originally designed.

speedyproftw · Jan 19, 2023

I hope Omega will eventually make a version that tapers to 18mm vs 16mm. The 1479 does this, and it simply fits better on the wrist than the modern bracelet, which just doesn't sit very still on the back of the wrist.

The Updated Bracelet For The Omega Speedmaster Professional 3861 — Here Is What’s New!

Robert-Jan

cej2007

Morlock

Evitzee

chiefenergy

Marty McDawg

MTROIS

SC1

Evitzee

SC1

MTROIS

Evitzee

WastedYears

SC1

Duckie

georgiadawgger

blueteg

blueteg

Evitzee

speedyproftw

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