The Ultraman-grail makes an appearance down under...

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There is no single Extract saying « Ultraman » out there 😗

That's what I am saying, that there will be no extract saying Ultraman out there - so the extract will only refer to orange hand


Sorry can't do that - I just recall reading somewhere that there were 50 (that might have been 500 or 50 to Japan) - I have thought they were in some ridiculously low number, but if you know the number, or have an idea I am eager to hear - just something I read some time ago that was most like apocryphal that I cam to believe, maybe erroneously so, please correct.

Not really sure what you mean here. I am just pointing that the often unstated implicit knowledge that all the pieces were distributed to Japan isn't correct.

The over all arching point is that without accurate knowledge and what to me seems like inaccurate data by the seller I would suggest staying away.

Obviously I was incorrect by placing a number.

I did find this interesting info by Robert-Jan:

"In the serial number range of roughly 3000 watches (26.076.xxx and 26.079.xxx, which corresponds to a production in 1968), an unknown number of watches were assembled with an orange hand. The reason is unknown, but after it became clear that these watches played a role in Ultraman, they were nicked ‘Speedmaster Ultraman’ or the ‘Ultraman Speedmaster’.

At this time, it isn’t clear how many of them are around but once in a while someone claims to have an all original Speedmaster Ultraman in his possession. Omega documented some of them as a Speedmaster that left the factory with an orange hand, as can be seen on the Extract of the Archives above. It is clear and confirmed that at least not all of these roughly 3000 pieces have an orange hand.

These watches were shipped to different markets, so not only to Japan."

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Have a feeling there’ll suddenly be a flood of “ultraman” Speedies in the market in the years to come.
 
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I did find this interesting info by Robert-Jan:

"In the serial number range of roughly 3000 watches (26.076.xxx and 26.079.xxx, which corresponds to a production in 1968), an unknown number of watches were assembled with an orange hand. The reason is unknown, but after it became clear that these watches played a role in Ultraman, they were nicked ‘Speedmaster Ultraman’ or the ‘Ultraman Speedmaster’.

At this time, it isn’t clear how many of them are around but once in a while someone claims to have an all original Speedmaster Ultraman in his possession. Omega documented some of them as a Speedmaster that left the factory with an orange hand, as can be seen on the Extract of the Archives above. It is clear and confirmed that at least not all of these roughly 3000 pieces have an orange hand.

These watches were shipped to different markets, so not only to Japan."

🤦 please, don't make the whole story more confusing than it actually is.

Ok so to make it clear :

- there are no extracts with remark and Japan as destination known at this stage
- ultraman is just a nickname and Omega doesn't write the nickname in Remarks
- there is no information that confirms the exact quantity of watches fitted with that special hand, it's all speculation as per today. MoonwatchOnly tried to compile a list of "known" Ultramans with Extract - so this is the only reliable source for speculations on quantity.

Have a feeling there’ll suddenly be a flood of “ultraman” Speedies in the market in the years to come.

That's why the Museum team wants to see the watch and make their due diligence before they add a remark to an Extract.
 
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Have a feeling there’ll suddenly be a flood of “ultraman” Speedies in the market in the years to come.

I think you are right there. 👍
 
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Have a feeling there’ll suddenly be a flood of “ultraman” Speedies in the market in the years to come.
I think you are right there. 👍

The Ultraman story has become public since almost two years now (June 29, 2016 - read here) and not more than 20 watches are known in the community at this stage. Talking about a foreseeable sudden flood might be a bit overkill or am I missing any information? Please share if so. 🙄
 
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Interesting!

MWO book also states serial numbers between 26.076.8xx and 26.079.7xx

Why wouldn't they get an extract also to reduce any chance of doubt?

For the obvious reason.....
 
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The Ultraman story has become public since almost two years now (June 29, 2016 - read here) and not more than 20 watches are known in the community at this stage. Talking about a foreseeable sudden flood might be a bit overkill or am I missing any information? Please share if so. 🙄


my diy ultraman looks more legit than this XD
 
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3 weeks ago a "deal was not far off to be agreed with a couple of client" that was the reason why they had no time to ask for an extract... surprisingly
 
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Seems like unscrupulous dealers are searching out models in the proper serial # range and modding them. I assume there is a reason that these watches are not accompanied by an extract.
 
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There is no single Extract saying « Ultraman » out there 😗



50? Sources, please ! 🙄



You seem to know something new, sources please ! 😀

Well, unfortunately I don't have the exact source, but I have the next best thing - or should I say person. It's not that I know something new, just that I recall this information being stated elsewhere.

Of course we don't know the exact source or sources as these are beyond my access, but to me this is as close as one gets to the horse's mouth - so I guess, without being imperious, I would say until you find a better source I will go with this - fifty it is.

11:59 sec in is a significant point in regards to my assertion. I just wish I can recall where I originally researched it.

 
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That's what I am saying, that there will be no extract saying Ultraman out there - so the extract will only refer to orange hand




Obviously I was incorrect by placing a number.

I did find this interesting info by Robert-Jan:

"In the serial number range of roughly 3000 watches (26.076.xxx and 26.079.xxx, which corresponds to a production in 1968), an unknown number of watches were assembled with an orange hand. The reason is unknown, but after it became clear that these watches played a role in Ultraman, they were nicked ‘Speedmaster Ultraman’ or the ‘Ultraman Speedmaster’.

At this time, it isn’t clear how many of them are around but once in a while someone claims to have an all original Speedmaster Ultraman in his possession. Omega documented some of them as a Speedmaster that left the factory with an orange hand, as can be seen on the Extract of the Archives above. It is clear and confirmed that at least not all of these roughly 3000 pieces have an orange hand.

These watches were shipped to different markets, so not only to Japan."


Further fuel for the fire... if that is the only part of the extract shown it cannot be trusted. Certain time periods of extracts did not have verified information in the remarks section. Certain owners where allowed to include non verified information in that section.

At this time I’d say the only verified information is based on the unique Chrono hand dimensions not shared with other models.

It seems does seem to appear that watches with these hands have different dial finishes then normal watches and all of those appear in a narrow serial range.
 
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Further fuel for the fire... if that is the only part of the extract shown it cannot be trusted. Certain time periods of extracts did not have verified information in the remarks section. Certain owners where allowed to include non verified information in that section.

At this time I’d say the only verified information is based on the unique Chrono hand dimensions not shared with other models.

It seems does seem to appear that watches with these hands have different dial finishes then normal watches and all of those appear in a narrow serial range.

Exactly!
 
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11:59 sec in is a significant point in regards to my assertion. I just wish I can recall where I originally researched it.


@Spacefruit so you are the only one who knows that there were 50 made .... who and when was this discovered ?

also that u send your request for extract and then it turns out that is a ultraman is tale telling as u have to send pictures to proof upfront that your watch has a orange hand.

cheers
 
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@Spacefruit so you are the only one who knows that there were 50 made .... who and when was this discovered ?

also that u send your request for extract and then it turns out that is a ultraman is tale telling as u have to send pictures to proof upfront that your watch has a orange hand.

cheers

Are you being deliberately challenging if not provocative here @Vintagewtchzilla? I think the weight of doubt falls with the experienced collector - and unless one can add more either through their own personal experience or a specific knowledge base or preferably both then it's sensible, in my opinion, to defer to those with that experience that circles closer to the knowledge base. However, it is fair to ask where that thinking was derived from. I think it's promising to hear that "after considerable research it has been discovered that Omega made 50 of these watches..." from such an experienced and knowledgeable collector. I don't believe he said I am the only one with this knowledge - in my view, we all just work on what is experiential to us and at this point experience trumps at his stage. I recall reading this fifty number a long time ago so it has been out there, I just wish I could recall from where - I must re-read the Chuck Maddox notes and emails. Anyway, at this point it's only theoretical but it's a place to start and spur dialogue - I guess Omega is the only one who may (and I emphasise may) be able to shed light on just how many were produced and while they are at it let us know how many Tintin racing dials were produced 👎😁

Just my 2cents.

By the way, a fantastic video interview for all lovers of the vintage Speedmaster.
 
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i am simply questioning things in a straigth way @blubarb, as u don't know me u also don't know my background or whatever.

the only so far database of ultraman is done by moonwatchonly here
and for sure in the archives of omega. there is no production number mentioned thats why i am asking where his number comes from.
 
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i am simply questioning things in a straigth way @blubarb, as u don't know me u also don't know my background or whatever.

the only so far database of ultraman is done by moonwatchonly here
and for sure in the archives of omega. there is no production number mentioned thats why i am asking where his number comes from.

Yeah, no problem, not having a go or judging - just giving my 2 cents. I agree with your premise as I think I mentioned.
 
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Yeah, no problem, not having a go or judging - just giving my 2 cents. I agree with your premise as I think I mentioned.
👍 and if we meet we go for a beer