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The NTTD - some thinking... UPDATE

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Great input from all of you - thank you. I need to clarify my first post a bit - as I said I'm ok with the watch not holding its value. Thats not my issue. More is it a question of how this watch will be seen a couple of years from now when the energy from the movie is long gone. A gimick from the past? A very small part of the Omega history and lineup that few will remember - like the Dynamic of the 90s for example and long gone from the discussion forums?

It will be remembered as one of the more cool Bond models. There will be others after it.
 
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It will be remembered as one of the more cool Bond models. There will be others after it.
But this is the first Omega that is heavily modified towards Bond, right? All the others have been a different dial, strap or second hand?
 
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Great input from all of you - thank you. I need to clarify my first post a bit - as I said I'm ok with the watch not holding its value. Thats not my issue. More is it a question of how this watch will be seen a couple of years from now when the energy from the movie is long gone. A gimick from the past? A very small part of the Omega history and lineup that few will remember - like the Dynamic of the 90s for example and long gone from the discussion forums?
I am not sure that is a great example. The Dynamic Gen 3 was a massive failure in its day, dealers shifted the last few at around £250. Only in hindsight is it seen for what it was, a qurky modern take on the 1940/50s military tool watches. Omega pitched it too low in the market, that combined with the italic number font meant that many didn't take it seriously. Unkind comparisons were made to Comic Sans (not in fact anything like the font used which is more calligraphic). I loved it and have owned both versions. Today they trade at more like £900-£1,500 depending on model so you could say that the market has well and truly woken up to them.

Personally I think the NTTD will settle at around 75-90% of retail and stay there until it is discontinued, then it might rise a little, but I cant see it being an 'overs' watch any time soon*. I got mine in the secondary market and I don't expect to lose on it but who knows. Buy it only if you like it is my motto for every watch I consider.

* see my earlier post for my reasoning on this, it seems the froth is blowing off the market in general and some overs pieces are falling back to less heady levels.
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Check out asking prices and the volume being listed on TZ-UK for an indication of how the market is trending. If you know WF you will know their buy in prices are falling. That’s a more reliable indicator than listings, which lag the market anyway natutally. When you say worked with WF, do you mean you were a buying or selling customer or do you literally mean worked you worked with them? Rather different!
Buying and selling customer - I am, of course, aware it’s different…..

You mention earlier resale on Rolex not dropping past retail. That’s exactly the point I was making, if you can pick one up at mrsp. That’s of course assuming you can offload it - which is problematic with WF currently.

In any case, like you I’d expect this to do reasonably well in the medium term. It’s the nicest Seamaster IMO and sufficiently different to hold its price ok I think.
 
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I love the nttd. Tried it on both strap and bracelet and fell in love with the titanium and color palette. If I didn’t have a ceramic seamaster 300m and also the spare cash laying about, I would absolutely be a buyer
 
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So, like many others but late to the game I'm really warming up to this watch, so much that I'm considering buying one. If the resale value goes down, so OK. Lets just say that I have owned a couple of Breitlings... But what do you think the general view will be on this piece a few years from now? Long forgotten or something that still will hold some kind of value? Since it is so related to the film with all the marks and numbers - a gimick and a bit tacky?

Don't buy a watch for it's potential value. Like all things, it will depreciate and I wouldn't treat these as investment pieces. Only three watch brands have appreciated in value and it's Patek, AP, and Rolex. AP and Rolex only just started to appreciate significantly in the last few years.

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Great input from all of you - thank you. I need to clarify my first post a bit - as I said I'm ok with the watch not holding its value. Thats not my issue. More is it a question of how this watch will be seen a couple of years from now when the energy from the movie is long gone. A gimick from the past? A very small part of the Omega history and lineup that few will remember - like the Dynamic of the 90s for example and long gone from the discussion forums?

Aside from the back case, I don't think it has enough references to James Bond for this piece to be gimmicky. In my opinion, I think it's the most beautiful variation of the Diver 300m and I think it'll be part of the Seamaster's history. The off-white coloring definitely has a vintage, nostalgic vibe. I'm not a big fan of the wavey dial on the regular Seamaster so having a clean black dial is really attractive to me. If I was in the market for a diver, this is the one I would consider.
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Great input from all of you - thank you. I need to clarify my first post a bit - as I said I'm ok with the watch not holding its value. Thats not my issue. More is it a question of how this watch will be seen a couple of years from now when the energy from the movie is long gone. A gimick from the past? A very small part of the Omega history and lineup that few will remember - like the Dynamic of the 90s for example and long gone from the discussion forums?

How it's remembered in the future context of Bond Watches might have more to do with who's chosen as the next Bond, the success of those films and the associated watches. Nobody knows or can predict these things at this time. But the Craig era will be a tough act to follow.

Regardless of what the future may bring, I think the NTTD Seamaster stands on it's own. For those who like it, I believe it will be remembered fondly. It's place in Omega Bond watch history is secure, as it's Craig's final Bond watch and the only one he helped design. It doesn't hurt that the movie was generally considered a success as well.
 
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Thanks again for all your input. I tried it on again and decided to put all of my concerns aside and pull the famous trigger. I’m not super thrilled about the 007 number and fakish broad arrow, but I just love the look of this watch and it feels so good to wear… I got a 15 % discount so not that bad…
 
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15% is pretty good if that’s the discount for a BNIB from an AD.
 
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Update

Thanks again for all your input. I tried it on again and decided to put all of my concerns aside and pull the famous trigger. I’m not super thrilled about the 007 number and fakish broad arrow, but I just love the look of this watch and it feels so good to wear… I got a 15 % discount so not that bad…

Excellent ! Enjoy !
 
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Yea I would be thrilled with a 15% break. That is a beauty!! You wear it well
 
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Buy it.
It’s not a gimmick. People have commented on mine about how gorgeous it is and they don’t mention James Bond because the 007 references are so subtle. I purchased mine because I love James Bond but the main reason was the watch itself is epic. I could’ve got the OHMSS 50 anniversary edition but the Bond references were not subtle at all. This watch looks like a unique Omega SMP- the titanium makes a massive difference. It works with all types of clothing. I do t regret it
 
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Buy it.
It’s not a gimmick. People have commented on mine about how gorgeous it is and they don’t mention James Bond because the 007 references are so subtle. I purchased mine because I love James Bond but the main reason was the watch itself is epic. I could’ve got the OHMSS 50 anniversary edition but the Bond references were not subtle at all. This watch looks like a unique Omega SMP- the titanium makes a massive difference. It works with all types of clothing. I do t regret it

There is one for sale BNIB for $7,000 on this forum with US shipping & customs paid too. A nice deal.
 
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That is a nice deal. I love the NTTD tried it on and it’s special. Ending up settling for the omega stainless milanese on my blue seaman
 
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My man at the AD had a little trouble tracking down the correct reference in the vast omega parts catalogue.. here is what he ordered for me.. this is the reference for the standard length stainless milanese bracelet and it comes with the deployant clasp. My cost was $750 pretax

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Apparently these come from Germany which I thought was interesting .. I have read rumors that these are contracted to be made by the Staib company, perhaps there is some truth to that
 
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There is every truth to is, the strap was designed by and possibly made by STAIB
 
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It is beautifully made, really excellent comfort and quality. I think it really improves the look
 
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