The new 3861 movement...

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Why? He does an excellent job and stocked up on likely parts for regular customers before dropping the account. I never said I was dissatisfied with him, just Omega's choices.
Well maybe write Omega a letter and let them know how you feel. It may not do any good, but might make you feel better 馃榾
 
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Speedmasters aren't a subject of acquisitive interest for me.

I just worry about the serviceability of these watches down the line. Even the 861 has parts available from non-Omega sources since it existed long before the parts lockdown. I understand Swatch thinks this is the path to long term viability, but they also may put the final nail in the coffin of the independent watchmaker and competition in the repair marketplace.

As an independent watchmaker, trust me I understand this concern more than most here...
 
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30 years from now Omega will come out with an 1861 "re-edition" and we'll all go crazy for it ::facepalm1::... genius! 馃榾
 
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30 years from now Omega will come out with an 1861 "re-edition" and we'll all go crazy for it ::facepalm1::... genius! 馃榾

Great.
And I'll probably be long gone so some lucky recipient of my 1861 Hesalite will be planing how they'll spend their retirement from the proceeds of the sale.
Good luck to em I say馃榾
 
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My enthusiasm for "new" is always tempered by the disturbing fact that so often there are bugs to get worked out, and they don't get worked out in house...they get worked out on you. And this is with watches, cars, drugs - the list is nearly endless.
 
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That should keep the service centers busy


My enthusiasm for "new" is always tempered by the disturbing fact that so often there are bugs to get worked out, and they don't get worked out in house...they get worked out on you. And this is with watches, cars, drugs - the list is nearly endless.
 
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I think Omega will be closely monitoring its co-axial monnwatch sales in the coming years. Both the bigger 44mm and 38mm and this new caliber 3861. I think that if sales steadily rise then they will eventually replace the 1861 with the 3861 and maybe keep a "heritage" moonwatch on the catalogue with an 1861. 321's will likely be rare maybe along the lines of Cartier's Collection Privee. Omega is all in with the co-axial movement and I'd imagine they are testing the waters to see if 3861 will be accepted by hard core fans.
 
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A lot of people seems to be really excited about the new movement. To some extent I can see why, but the other half of me is not so sure. Here we have the 1861/861 movement (the differences are subtle) that have been in service since 1969. It has been in space and was retested by NASA for the shuttle missions. I cant see past the fact that the Moonwatch now moves away from the great thing that it was. The new movement, though great, makes the Speedmaster a modern watch and far from the one being used in space. Of course you could say that it is still the same movement with some updates, but I'm not sure what to think here. The fact that the Moonwatch was unchanged for so many years was a big sellingpoint for me. Now it is a modern Omega,,
 
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In the same way Omega bought out the 311.33.42.50.01.001 50th Aniversary Speedmaster in 2007, complete with its 3201 co-axiel COSC certified manual wind movement, (1957 only made) I think they will do the same with this one. It will either be a special edition, or Omega will produce it alongside the 1861, in my opinion. There have been so many different Speedys over the years, many with automatic movements, yet the 861/1861 based movements have survived them all. I just don't think Omega will look to replace it now. It would likely be much more expensive to buy for one thing, and it would need certifying all over again by NASA to be a true Speedy Professional Moonwatch etc. Its an icon as it is now, there is nothing else like it with the history it has.
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