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dstfno
·heritage wise, is the aqua terra line considered much more junior to the Seamasters, Speedies and Connies?
The great Aqua Terra Debate
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mzzleather
·The Aqua Terra is a Seamaster.
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scapa
·Having given up on my Snoopy dream and never quite clicked with my 2018 SMP, I finally took the plunge on a mint AT 220.10.41.21.03.004 in the classic blue. Like a few I found 38 a bit wee and 41 a touch large but settled on the 41 as the best fit for my flat, 7" wrist. I can generally go both larger (Doxa 5000T, MM300) or smaller (FOIS, BB36, Aquastars and vintage Seamasters) but I prefer the 8900 movement on balance.
Should arrive in the next week or so. Excited to meet it.
Should arrive in the next week or so. Excited to meet it.
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carlos13
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carlos13
·I wouldn’t swap mine. Not even for a rolex.
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o.m.e.g.a
·"Master Co-Axial Chronometer" is NOT the same as "Co-Axial Master Chronometer", right?
This is confusing, at least for me. I have a feeling it's deliberately confusing.
This is confusing, at least for me. I have a feeling it's deliberately confusing.
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tikkathree
·There's no parting with these two....
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scapa
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jeelan
·What model number is that?? Love it
that one is model no 231.10.42.21.03.006
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-au/...r-co-axial-chronometer-41-5-mm-23110422103006
there was also a black one:
https://www.omegawatches.com/watch-...r-co-axial-chronometer-41-5-mm-23110422101006
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EuroDriver
·Reviving this thread just because I just found it and wanted to share a bit of little-known knowledge regarding the Skyfall vs Spectre.
Although the Skyfall is merely labeled co-axial chronometer and the Spectre is master co-axial chronometer, they are nearly identical. The Spectre gained master status due to the increased anti magnetic certification thanks to the advent of the silicon balance spring. However, few know that the Skyfall is also equipped with it. The Skyfall was not tested for master certification and thus was not labeled as such but you can see the Si14 designation on the pictogram card.
A few more amagnetic parts were added to the Spectre but when a Skyfall is taken in for service, those parts are updated to the newer ones which makes it equal to the Spectre's. Thus, the Spectre does not necessarily have a superior movement.
Another trivia tidbit is that the hands and markers on the Skyfall are white gold vs Rhodium on the Spectre.
I lean for the Skyfall. I originally purchased one at the tail end of the frenzy during the COVID era in mint condition with box and papers for around $5,500 USD plus import duties. I sold it and hated myself until I recently re-acquired one for just under $2900. Not as clean but I still love it. Threw it on a PCL bracelet and I feel I have the best of both worlds.
Although the Skyfall is merely labeled co-axial chronometer and the Spectre is master co-axial chronometer, they are nearly identical. The Spectre gained master status due to the increased anti magnetic certification thanks to the advent of the silicon balance spring. However, few know that the Skyfall is also equipped with it. The Skyfall was not tested for master certification and thus was not labeled as such but you can see the Si14 designation on the pictogram card.
A few more amagnetic parts were added to the Spectre but when a Skyfall is taken in for service, those parts are updated to the newer ones which makes it equal to the Spectre's. Thus, the Spectre does not necessarily have a superior movement.
Another trivia tidbit is that the hands and markers on the Skyfall are white gold vs Rhodium on the Spectre.
I lean for the Skyfall. I originally purchased one at the tail end of the frenzy during the COVID era in mint condition with box and papers for around $5,500 USD plus import duties. I sold it and hated myself until I recently re-acquired one for just under $2900. Not as clean but I still love it. Threw it on a PCL bracelet and I feel I have the best of both worlds.
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DoctorEvil
·Fun thread. I had a similar conundrum to the OP when I decided to get an Aqua Terra early last year. I eventually settled on the 38.5mm version of the "Spectre".
I knew that I really wanted a blue dial as that was my favourite colour. I preferred the vertical teak dial pattern rather than the current horizontal pattern as I found that the horizontal pattern can sometimes appear to have multiple bold lines running across the dial under certain lighting conditions, which I didn't like. The previous generation 38.5mm AT with Caliber 8500 had the quick set skipping hour hand, making it an ideal overseas travel watch. I preferred this over the current generation 38mm which has Caliber 8800, which has a quick set date instead.
So, it came down to the Skyfall or the Spectre. I went for the Spectre largely because of function over form:
1. The framed date window, whilst distinctive and adding a certain symmetry to the dial, could partially obscure the date wheel or cast a shadow on it when viewed from certain angles, affecting legibility (at least this is what I can see in some photos).
2. The Spectre has the final iteration of the Caliber 8500 (8500G) which incorporates all the anti magnetic tech pioneered in the "Bumblebee" and theoretically has a greater resistance to magnetism compared to the Skyfall. Most Skyfalls that I've encountered haven't yet been serviced and had their movements upgraded.
3. Mine still had some factory warranty left on it. Uncommon with this reference now, but almost unheard of for a Skyfall.
Overall, I've been pretty happy with my purchase. It's been a great GADA watch and the first Co-Axial Omega I've owned. Timekeeping has been amazing, gaining less than a second a day. Cheers!
I knew that I really wanted a blue dial as that was my favourite colour. I preferred the vertical teak dial pattern rather than the current horizontal pattern as I found that the horizontal pattern can sometimes appear to have multiple bold lines running across the dial under certain lighting conditions, which I didn't like. The previous generation 38.5mm AT with Caliber 8500 had the quick set skipping hour hand, making it an ideal overseas travel watch. I preferred this over the current generation 38mm which has Caliber 8800, which has a quick set date instead.
So, it came down to the Skyfall or the Spectre. I went for the Spectre largely because of function over form:
1. The framed date window, whilst distinctive and adding a certain symmetry to the dial, could partially obscure the date wheel or cast a shadow on it when viewed from certain angles, affecting legibility (at least this is what I can see in some photos).
2. The Spectre has the final iteration of the Caliber 8500 (8500G) which incorporates all the anti magnetic tech pioneered in the "Bumblebee" and theoretically has a greater resistance to magnetism compared to the Skyfall. Most Skyfalls that I've encountered haven't yet been serviced and had their movements upgraded.
3. Mine still had some factory warranty left on it. Uncommon with this reference now, but almost unheard of for a Skyfall.
Overall, I've been pretty happy with my purchase. It's been a great GADA watch and the first Co-Axial Omega I've owned. Timekeeping has been amazing, gaining less than a second a day. Cheers!
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DoctorEvil
·Reviving this thread just because I just found it and wanted to share a bit of little-known knowledge regarding the Skyfall vs Spectre.
Although the Skyfall is merely labeled co-axial chronometer and the Spectre is master co-axial chronometer, they are nearly identical. The Spectre gained master status due to the increased anti magnetic certification thanks to the advent of the silicon balance spring. However, few know that the Skyfall is also equipped with it. The Skyfall was not tested for master certification and thus was not labeled as such but you can see the Si14 designation on the pictogram card.
A few more amagnetic parts were added to the Spectre but when a Skyfall is taken in for service, those parts are updated to the newer ones which makes it equal to the Spectre's. Thus, the Spectre does not necessarily have a superior movement.
Another trivia tidbit is that the hands and markers on the Skyfall are white gold vs Rhodium on the Spectre.
I lean for the Skyfall. I originally purchased one at the tail end of the frenzy during the COVID era in mint condition with box and papers for around $5,500 USD plus import duties. I sold it and hated myself until I recently re-acquired one for just under $2900. Not as clean but I still love it. Threw it on a PCL bracelet and I feel I have the best of both worlds.
https://www.omegawatches.com/watch-...ra-150m-omega-co-axial-38-5-mm-23110392103001
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-au/...r-co-axial-chronometer-41-5-mm-23110422103003
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EuroDriver
·Lovely watch! Just wondering if you wouldn't mind citing your reference for this piece of information? I'm curious as to why Omega would use white gold on one generation of Aqua Terra but then discontinue it on the next, especially if there's likely a price increase. I've been trawling the web trying to verify your information but no success. Even Omega's website doesn't confirm the use of white gold for the indices. Fairly certain they would draw attention to this feature if it was present.
https://www.omegawatches.com/watch-...ra-150m-omega-co-axial-38-5-mm-23110392103001
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-au/...r-co-axial-chronometer-41-5-mm-23110422103003
https://www.ablogtowatch.com/no-longer-made-omega-seamaster-aqua-terra-8500-skyfall/
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DoctorEvil
·I've read a few posts here (now long lost in the haystack of my post readings) from owners who stated they called Omega, who confirmed to them the applied furniture is white gold. I have also read some blogs/articles that make mention of it, but also lost track of them. Here is one blog I was still able to find that makes mention of it:
https://www.ablogtowatch.com/no-longer-made-omega-seamaster-aqua-terra-8500-skyfall/
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-au/planet-omega/cinema/spectre
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EuroDriver
·Lol, they probably got their facts mixed up. Craig wore the 38.5mm Aqua Terra in Skyfall
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GrussGott
·I've read a few posts here (now long lost in the haystack of my post readings) from owners who stated they called Omega, who confirmed to them the applied furniture is white gold. I have also read some blogs/articles that make mention of it, but also lost track of them. Here is one blog I was still able to find that makes mention of it:
https://www.ablogtowatch.com/no-longer-made-omega-seamaster-aqua-terra-8500-skyfall/
Omega is pretty clear on their website which watches do have, say, white gold markers and which don't, and this for sure changes.
For example, the current Ultra Deeps list their hands/indices as white gold but the other POs don't ... however if you read the blogs / reviews about various POs they say they are white gold so I asked my Swiss OB watchmaker about that and he said Omega has been changing it on many models to rhodium in the last 5 years.
An example is the Grey Side of the Moon: it's listed on all the blogs as having "smoked white gold" hands/indices, but the watchmaker said he's never heard of that and the website says nothing about white gold. He believes the original "001" maybe were white gold while the "002" with the folding clasp did away with the smoked white gold.
