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Discrete, concealed carry is legal here in Texas. There is very little of that sort of nonsense here except in certain "armpit" areas within the state, areas that most thoughtful people avoid.

There may be very little of that sort of nonsense in Texas, but there's Uvalde.
 
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Being from Pennsylvania, a state with a large population of hunters, I don’t have a problem with guns or gun ownership. But to risk your life over a watch and thinking that you can “out draw” a would be robber who has a gun pointed at your head seems to me to be a not terribly well considered move.
 
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What we really needed is for that guy to pull out his gun as the robber was running away and fire off a few shots at the guy... into a crowded restaurant... 🤨


perks713; It's not required to be reckless in one's defense against crime.

In this day and age what seems to be in critically short supply is common sense.
 
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Sure, but in this specific case the person threw a chair at a guy with a gun and broke a women's face in the process....
 
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Well guys, we can always simply roll over to crime some more and and continue to indulge in helpless hand wringing .
 
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There may be very little of that sort of nonsense in Texas, but there's Uvalde.

A certain helplessness pervaded over common sense in the hideous Uvalde crime.
 
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Sure, but in this specific case the person threw a chair at a guy with a gun and broke a women's face in the process....
Normally I always throw a table
 
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YY77 YY77
Why not scare them away with our wooden clogs.😜


Got your back @YY77 !

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YY77 YY77
Why not scare them away with our wooden clogs.😜
 
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Shabbaz Shabbaz
Normally I always throw a table


That's the spirit!

Except, for if I threw a table I'd probably throw my own silly shoulder out at my age.
 
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I've never owned a Rolex, not that I have anything against the brand.

I do know that, as watch "investments" go, they are probably best, hence a tempting target for thieves who may recognize Rolex value, but would ignore a Patek or an AP or a VC.

If I were to live another 50 years, I doubt that anyone would spot my vintage watches as things of value. My life-style is such that I don't travel through high crime areas often . . . and when I did so, I'd be wearing one of my Seiko watches.

All of the above is of little comfort to a person who'd simply like to wear a Rolex anywhere in peace.

We simply have to adjust to the times we live in . . . and the places we go.
 
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Very hard to know the right answer. In rare cases, a Good Samaritan with a gun does thwart a crime, visibly worn guns could obviously disincentivize a criminal, and I'm sure that carrying a handgun makes you feel safer. So I don't blame any law-abiding citizen who carries a handgun for safety. My ex-wife and most of her friends had guns in their purses when I lived in New Orleans, and we had a shotgun in the house. Here, I don't feel the need.

However, there are an awful lot of bad stories as well that result from good guys carrying guns (including a tragic local case, where a good guy killed a bad guy who ambushed a cop, and then was mistakenly killed by other cops). Overall, I guess I'm reluctant to buy into the idea that the solution to guns is more guns, it just sounds like something that a marketing organization would dream up.
 
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Or we could do something about guns, violence, income inequality, mental health, the list goes on, Instead of just sending thoughts and prayers.

I truly understand your belief that more people carrying means less people willing to commit those types of crimes and that's probably true in some cases. I worry more about that restaurant turning into a scene from Tombstone than someone getting robbed for a watch.
 
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There’s never a waiter with a Taser around when you need one …
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noelekal noelekal
In some locales that can work both ways though.

Sadly, this won't play well here on the Omega Forum, but when our collective "sheeple" attitude doesn't protect us then we may be assured of having all of the crime that we are willing to put up with. What is needed is some "starch in our collective drawers." I'm with Larry S.

Old photo, but the essential equipment remains the same or similar. Discrete, concealed carry is legal here in Texas. There is very little of that sort of nonsense here except in certain "armpit" areas within the state, areas that most thoughtful people avoid.

Bravo to you sir. It is time to stop cowering and allowing politicians and criminals tell us how to live. I am taking CCW training right now, and will plan to carry as soon as I can.
 
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Or we could do something about guns, violence, income inequality, mental health, the list goes on, Instead of just sending thoughts and prayers.

I truly understand your belief that more people carrying means less people willing to commit those types of crimes and that's probably true in some cases. I worry more about that restaurant turning into a scene from Tombstone than someone getting robbed for a watch.

In every mass shooting in the last two years, armed citizens could have stopped it quickly and actually prevented a "shooting" from turning into a mass shooting. Income inequality has nothing to do with it. Mental health has almost nothing to do with it (most people with mental health issues are not violent mass shooters)...and if you want to reduce violence, you don't run from it and cower, you confront it head on.
 
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In every mass shooting in the last two years, armed citizens could have stopped it quickly and actually prevented a "shooting" from turning into a mass shooting. Income inequality has nothing to do with it. Mental health has almost nothing to do with it (most people with mental health issues are not violent mass shooters)...and if you want to reduce violence, you don't run from it and cower, you confront it head on.
The United States has more armed citizens than any other first world nation - and one of the highest rates of gun violence. Keeping in mind that mass shootings in the U.S. are a daily occurrence, please give us examples of publicized incidents of which you are aware in which a good samaritan armed citizen thwarted a would be mass shooting.
 
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Mental health has almost nothing to do with it (most people with mental health issues are not violent mass shooters)...

I'm sorry, you're saying mental health has almost nothing to do with mass shootings? Is your argument that mass shooters are completely sane? So all those mass shooters who legally purchased their weapons and then carried out their crimes... no mental health issues? That might be the best argument I've heard yet for stricter gun control laws.
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noelekal noelekal
Well guys, we can always simply roll over to crime some more and and continue to indulge in helpless hand wringing .

I always find this sort of comment disappointing, in particular from people I respect, like you.

But this is the narrative that you hear all the time, that the choices are either to arm yourself to the hilt, or "roll over" or "cower" or some other sort of term meant to demean the people who are not in favour of living in an armed state, 24/7.

These are not the only options...

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noelekal noelekal
Discrete, concealed carry is legal here in Texas.
johnireland johnireland
Bravo to you sir. It is time to stop cowering and allowing politicians and criminals tell us how to live. I am taking CCW training right now, and will plan to carry as soon as I can.

Here's my problem with concealed.
Let's say I cut you off on the interstate. We both rolled down our windows and exchanged dick jokes. Most likely, you'll show me your fire arm.

You'll get to decide if I live or die for cutting you off. People who carry guns tend to escalade shit quickly. I'm generalized from prior experiences. Concealed baseball bat needs to be a thing. I support that.
 
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