The Aviators Thread

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Great pics! Thanks for sharing.
Learnt something new today as I didn't know there was an entry ladder underneath the rear section of the Cat.
By "most underrated aircraft", I'm guessing you're referring to the Hurricane? That's a beautiful example there. If memory serves me correct, it actually shot down more enemy aircraft during the Battle of Britain than the Spitfire. Was also easier to repair after sustaining battle damage.
The Hurricane was a better gun platform too.
 
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@DoctorEvil @JimInOz @Turpinrr
Thanks for the comments. I am lucky to have this places like this relatively close, one advantage of being in a very flat area / legacy from WW2.
Aside from the display aircraft in Hanger 1 (Concorde etc) everything pictured is flight ready or in restoration. The Hurricane got a big thumbs up from expert staff saying the gun positions (close to fuselage) undercarriage design, wood and fabric fuselage etc all combined to make it a robust and formidable fighter with a great turning circle. It did mean it could not be developed and enhanced like the Spitfire with its more modern fuselage concept. The spit also looks easier to jump into ;0). Ref the Catalina a person I went with had a link to the story below so it was emotional for them to see one at last. I have seen that one flying on days where nothing else is going up so it is a sturdy beast and can pull some nice aerobatics despite its size. In terms of the forgotten hero, the Hurricane does not get enough recognition, but it was indeed the Bristol Beaufighter (whispering death) (link to an old post on that below). Hopefully the one shown above will be back in the air at some point.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07...d-after-papua-plane-wreckage-found/100303068#

https://omegaforums.net/threads/bri...aft-and-steps-to-concorde.116575/post-1585778
 
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@DoctorEvil @JimInOz @Turpinrr
Thanks for the comments. I am lucky to have this places like this relatively close, one advantage of being in a very flat area / legacy from WW2.
Aside from the display aircraft in Hanger 1 (Concorde etc) everything pictured is flight ready or in restoration. The Hurricane got a big thumbs up from expert staff saying the gun positions (close to fuselage) undercarriage design, wood and fabric fuselage etc all combined to make it a robust and formidable fighter with a great turning circle. It did mean it could not be developed and enhanced like the Spitfire with its more modern fuselage concept. The spit also looks easier to jump into ;0). Ref the Catalina a person I went with had a link to the story below so it was emotional for them to see one at last. I have seen that one flying on days where nothing else is going up so it is a sturdy beast and can pull some nice aerobatics despite its size. In terms of the forgotten hero, the Hurricane does not get enough recognition, but it was indeed the Bristol Beaufighter (whispering death) (link to an old post on that below). Hopefully the one shown above will be back in the air at some point.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07...d-after-papua-plane-wreckage-found/100303068#

https://omegaforums.net/threads/bri...aft-and-steps-to-concorde.116575/post-1585778
I really appreciate the pics from Hendon 👍

It was the Hurricane that started my interest in aviation back in 1964 when I was 6 years old.
A massive photo of Douglas Bader on his Hurricane had me asking my dad who he was...

My favourite part of the Battle of Britain film is when Hurricanes from Polish squadrons join RAF Spitfires
"Bloody marvellous" says the public school educated RAF officer.

I always thought the Hurricanes were overshadowed by the graceful Spitfire the way the Beaufighter and Halifax were by the Mosquito and Lancaster respectively.

The Catalinas and Sunderlands were beautiful aeroplanes and looked like gentlemens clubs inside compared to the cramped confines of the Lancaster.

My ex WAAF mother remembered seeing Catalinas on the Isle of Mull before she was enlisted.
 
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In terms of hidden Gems at Duxford I also spotted this amazing aircraft (one of the best in WW2?) trying to sneak out the fire exit for another flight....


 
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Andy a quick treble from East Kirkby taken late last year (I am still playing catch up).....

 
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In terms of hidden Gems at Duxford I also spotted this amazing aircraft (one of the best in WW2?) trying to sneak out the fire exit for another flight....


I thought it was the Sea Fury 🤔
 
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Let me share some interesting 1959 portrait photos of Apollo 16 Lunar Module Pilot Charles "Charlie" Duke as a young Lieutenant.
(Photos: USAF/San Diego Air & Space)
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I thought it was the Sea Fury 🤔
Back in the mid 1960s I was a young Naval Airman (AE) and one of my first jobs was helping some senior guys who were doing a restoration on a Sea Fury.
My job was mainly cleaning up the mess they made, getting tools, putting tools back on the tool board and making brews. But I got to watch and learn, even had to hold bits now and again.
Best part was in quiet times, I could sit in the cockpit and play hangar pilot.
It was a bit of an eye opener because there was no forward vision at all (aircraft was off jacks when I noticed this).
I'd just started learning on a Cessna 150, so the thought you couldn't see forward until the tail got up was scary.
It was explained to me by an old PO who described the taxi manouvres done by pilots as "zig, look, zag, look, zig, look etc etc" until they were lined up on the runway, then it was full power, keep it straight until the tail came off the deck.

Been to a few air shows since then where a Sea Fury featured, what a beautiful sounding beast coming toward you at full belt.
Hairs/back of neck stuff.
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Back in the mid 1060s I was a young Naval Airman
Did not realise that planes were invented that long ago, Jim. Also, congratulations on hanging on to most of your faculties. 😉
 
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Did not realise that planes were invented that long ago, Jim. Also, congratulations on hanging on to most of your faculties. 😉
Never underestimate English inventors/designers, but I admit it may have been a bit early for "flying machines".
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Here's a remarkably informative video on how Air Traffic Control works, using the Toronto International Airport as an example. This video was published just a couple of weeks ahead of the Washington DC midair collision.

 
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Here's a remarkably informative video on how Air Traffic Control works, using the Toronto International Airport as an example. This video was published just a couple of weeks ahead of the Washington DC midair collision.

Great video. Thanks for sharing. It's scary how many aircraft are in the air at any one time. Sometimes it's better not to know so that you can enjoy your flight. I also subscribe to the "big sky theory" 😄

On a more serious note, the video does make me wonder how a flight like Malaysian Airlines MH370 can just disappear without a trace, given all the tracking systems in place for regulating air traffic. IMHO it lends a bit more credence to the hypothesis that foul play is likely and that someone deliberately did not want the aircraft to be tracked or found. For now, it remains one of aviation's biggest mysteries.
 
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Omega CK2777 pilot watch as seen in the 1961 British Pathé docu on the Royal Air Force Collega Cranwell - Sleaford Lincolnshire

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Great story! Might be why I can't find any ex air force flight jackets in disposals stores 😄

Your story reminds me of what happened to the U.S. Navy Type G-1 leather flying jackets. According to the book "Hell Bent for Leather" by Nelson and Parsons, the Type G-1 could previously be ordered by a flying squadron's supply officer. Naturally, they would order a few more than what would be needed to cover loss/damage. These excess jackets could be used as "Cumshaw", a gratuity that could be exchanged for favours when needed. By the late 1970s, the powers that be worked out that over 30,000 flight jackets were being ordered every year despite there only being just 15,000 aviators on strength at any one time. They dealt with this waste by ceasing the issue of this jacket to aircrew. When Reagan became president, the issue of these jackets resumed in the early 1980s. However, they were now a more strictly controlled item which was issued from a single building at NAS Pensacola. Any member who wanted a replacement for a lost/ damaged jacket now had to submit a letter to their CO explaining how it happened. The CO would then make a determination on whether to approve replacement at Service expense. Don't know how true this is. Maybe @Mad Dog can confirm.

Anyway, here's a pic of the passage from the book. It's quite a good read if you can get hold of a copy...

And here's a pic of a Type G-1 from my collection. It's from the first batch of jackets produced for the U.S. Navy after they started issuing them again. The contract number on the label states that it was ordered in fiscal year 1982. Zipper is a replacement.
Yeppers…that all sounds fairly familiar. Everybody in my fleet squadron [HSL-45] was pretty careful to not lose or damage their G-1 since getting a replacement was known to be difficult…that was in the late 1980s/early 1990s. I still have my G-1 [see pic below] which was issued to me in 1986 during Aviation Officer Candidate School at NAS Pensacola…but when I left active duty at the end of my time at HSL-45 in 1992, I was required to turn in my G-1…which I didn’t do…since I had conveniently “lost it” during my last deployment. I had reported it “lost” and sure enough NIS [now NCIS] gave me a call on the telephone asking questions. I guess they knew what the deal was…no damned Naval Aviator is going to turn in their G-1…but in the end, I lied and stole from the government which I didn’t feel too good about.

Karma’s a bitch…when I applied to the Cincinnati Police Department in 2002, I admitted to all my past shenanigans which included stealing my G-1. They had a freaking field day with me and I got booted from the application process…but I appealed getting booted and was hired. After I got hired, the background investigators that were involved in my application process wanted to actually see my G-1…so I wore it down to the Cincinnati Police Academy one day. They basically said, “Dude, that’s a really cool flight jacket…we would’ve stolen it too!”

 
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Thanks for sharing that story. That is a really cool flight jacket!
I'm surprised to hear that you had to return your G-1 when you finished active duty. I was always under the impression that aviators got to keep it after they've left the Service. After all, what would the Navy do with a bunch of patched up jackets that may also reek of people's body odour and cigarette smoke? (only kidding!)
I'm fairly sure I've come across a document that states you can keep it. I'll see if I can find it.
 
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A few pics… curious if you are familiar with the aircraft pictured. I am not.

I spotted marijuana (spelled marihuana in Canada) during annual eradication efforts in the 1990s. We used our military helicopter.




In the mid 2000s. I was the patrol sergeant coordinating a suicide investigation on the bridge to Port Huron Michigan. Soon after alerting our rescue coordination center in Trenton Ontario, the Detroit Coast Guard flew below us. I immediately told my scenes of crime officer to take photos from above. I have some nice 8 x 10s.




I was in my leather shop today and mentioned the coast guard photo. A regular customer showed me a photo that she took in 2016 or 2017. So cool.




I mentioned RCC Trenton (above). The following link refers to the former commander of CFB Trenton, who is now in jail.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/col-russell-williams-timeline-1.913312
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A few pics… curious if you a familiar with the aircraft pictured. I am not.

I spotted marijuana (spelled marihuana in Canada) during annual eradication efforts in the 1990s. We used our military helicopter.




In the mid 2000s. I was the patrol sergeant coordinating a suicide investigation on the bridge to Port Huron Michigan. Soon after alerting our rescue coordination center in Trenton Ontario, the Detroit Coast Guard flew below us. I immediately told my scenes of crime officer to take photos from above. I have some nice 8 x 10s.




I was in my leather shop today and mentioned the coast guard photo. A regular customer showed me a photo that she took in 2016 or 2017. So cool.




I mentioned RCC Trenton (above). The following link refers to the former commander of CFB Trenton, who is now in jail.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/col-russell-williams-timeline-1.913312
Thanks for sharing your pics! After a bit of sleuthing around on the interwebs, I came up with the following info:
The Canadian military helo is a Bell "Twin Huey" (designated CH-135 by the Canadian military). They were retired from service in 1999.
The red USCG helo is an Aerospatiale H-65 "Dolphin".

The news story of the CFB commander was a bit disturbing. Just think, one of my former COs could have been an axe wielding serial killer 🤔

Anyway, I hope you don't mind me asking, but were you RCMP back in the day?