Sweeping second hand, but it's a quartz?

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Got to a new office today. Saw a little wall clock in the corner with its second hand just sweeping away. I thought wow that's kinda cool. So I wanted to take a closer look and saw "Quartz" on the dial. I though quartz movement would have a ticking second hand...
 
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There is a new movement a bunch of clockmakers are using now with a "silent sweep". Marathon is one as I have one. I think Sanyo or Sony have one too. Kinda neat!
 
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I have seen several electric clocks with sweep (smooth) second hands. Its all about gearing I believe.
 
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I bought a very cheap quartz movement from PCR on ebay to replace an old one. Paid about 3$. Installed it and I've never seen such a smooth sweep.
 
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I have 5 wall clocks which I got because of the sweeping second hand::rimshot::.
 
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And you can buy silent bedside alarm clocks 😀
 
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And you can buy silent bedside alarm clocks 😀

How do they wake you up 😒
 
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How do they wake you up 😒


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Got to a new office today. Saw a little wall clock in the corner with its second hand just sweeping away. I thought wow that's kinda cool. So I wanted to take a closer look and saw "Quartz" on the dial. I though quartz movement would have a ticking second hand...

And there are so mechanical watches with ticking second hands... 😁

Like this beautiful Jaeger:
 
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I did buy into the Seiko sweep and got three - had them a few years as cheap wall clocks now but one just died on me...
 
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Got to a new office today. Saw a little wall clock in the corner with its second hand just sweeping away. I thought wow that's kinda cool. So I wanted to take a closer look and saw "Quartz" on the dial. I though quartz movement would have a ticking second hand...

The quartz crystal vibrates at a very high frequency compared to other oscillators in watches and most clocks. So a modern mechanical movement will have a frequency of 28,800 A/hr, so 8 Hz. The Bulova Accutrons use a tuning fork that vibrated much faster - 360 Hz. Quartz crystals used in watches typically vibrate at 32 KHz - 32,000 Hz.

In a mechanical watch, the frequency of the balance had a direct impact (in most cases) in the smoothness of the seconds hand. In a quartz watch it has nothing to do with that. It's about how the designers choose to make the hands move, which is related to motor pulses. Some quartz watches tick once per second, some once every 10 or 20 seconds (these usually do not have a seconds hand). The limitation of how fast you can make a quartz watch tick is largely driven by battery life, because the more pulses you have, the more energy is required.

If you ake it tick fast enough, it appears to be a smooth traverse around the dial, so once you get to the point where it appears smooth, theres no reason to make it tick faster. It's dong so and getting reasonable battery life that is the challange, and the Bulova/Citizen Precisionist movements were really the first to bring this out commercially. Not surprising that others have done so.

Note that some old electrically driven clocks use the normal A/C current to create the movement at 60 Hz (or 50 depending on where you live). Those may have some sort of overall quartz control that corrects the clock from time to time, like the old master and slave type clock systems.

So quartz controlled clocks and watches won't necessarily tick once per second.

Cheers, Al
 
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The quartz crystal vibrates at a very high frequency compared to other oscillators in watches and most clocks. So a modern mechanical movement will have a frequency of 28,800 A/hr, so 8 Hz. The Bulova Accutrons use a tuning fork that vibrated much faster - 360 Hz. Quartz crystals used in watches typically vibrate at 32 KHz - 32,000 Hz.

In a mechanical watch, the frequency of the balance had a direct impact (in most cases) in the smoothness of the seconds hand. In a quartz watch it has nothing to do with that. It's about how the designers choose to make the hands move, which is related to motor pulses. Some quartz watches tick once per second, some once every 10 or 20 seconds (these usually do not have a seconds hand). The limitation of how fast you can make a quartz watch tick is largely driven by battery life, because the more pulses you have, the more energy is required.

If you ake it tick fast enough, it appears to be a smooth traverse around the dial, so once you get to the point where it appears smooth, theres no reason to make it tick faster. It's dong so and getting reasonable battery life that is the challange, and the Bulova/Citizen Precisionist movements were really the first to bring this out commercially. Not surprising that others have done so.

Note that some old electrically driven clocks use the normal A/C current to create the movement at 60 Hz (or 50 depending on where you live). Those may have some sort of overall quartz control that corrects the clock from time to time, like the old master and slave type clock systems.

So quartz controlled clocks and watches won't necessarily tick once per second.

Cheers, Al

32 KHz...... while at f2.4MHz …. this one still ticks... I am sending this one back :0)… I also just saw the battery is flat on my new 'old' hummer...Battery is also flat on this old girl... but they don't last long at f2.4MHz
 
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Got to a new office today. Saw a little wall clock in the corner with its second hand just sweeping away. I thought wow that's kinda cool. So I wanted to take a closer look and saw "Quartz" on the dial. I though quartz movement would have a ticking second hand...

That's exactly what I thought when I came home 2 days ago and found this on the wall. When I asked my wife why the hand is sweeping and not ticking, she just rolled her eyes and walked away.
 
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I have 5 wall clocks which I got because of the sweeping second hand::rimshot::.
I am trigged by the minute hands
 
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I did buy into the Seiko sweep and got three - had them a few years as cheap wall clocks now but one just died on me...

You can get a good quality sweep movement for less than USD$30. Straight swap, no real skill needed.
 
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How do they wake you up 😒
Electrodes clipped to tongue and testicles. Guaranteed to get you out of bed in the morning.
 
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The quartz crystal vibrates at a very high frequency compared to other oscillators in watches and most clocks. So a modern mechanical movement will have a frequency of 28,800 A/hr, so 8 Hz. The Bulova Accutrons use a tuning fork that vibrated much faster - 360 Hz. Quartz crystals used in watches typically vibrate at 32 KHz - 32,000 Hz.

In a mechanical watch, the frequency of the balance had a direct impact (in most cases) in the smoothness of the seconds hand. In a quartz watch it has nothing to do with that. It's about how the designers choose to make the hands move, which is related to motor pulses. Some quartz watches tick once per second, some once every 10 or 20 seconds (these usually do not have a seconds hand). The limitation of how fast you can make a quartz watch tick is largely driven by battery life, because the more pulses you have, the more energy is required.

If you ake it tick fast enough, it appears to be a smooth traverse around the dial, so once you get to the point where it appears smooth, theres no reason to make it tick faster. It's dong so and getting reasonable battery life that is the challange, and the Bulova/Citizen Precisionist movements were really the first to bring this out commercially. Not surprising that others have done so.

Note that some old electrically driven clocks use the normal A/C current to create the movement at 60 Hz (or 50 depending on where you live). Those may have some sort of overall quartz control that corrects the clock from time to time, like the old master and slave type clock systems.

So quartz controlled clocks and watches won't necessarily tick once per second.

Cheers, Al
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