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Strange Looking Pushers: 145.014 (Edit: 145.037 Telestop)

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I just stumbled upon this MKII with strange looking pushers, and am curious to know if I've spotted an issue or if this is normal for this reference.

What's going on here? Are they incorrectly installed, the wrong size, or have the inserts that the pushers sit in been unwound? They do look like they're sitting too proud.

Would any of you kind people be willing to shed some light on this for me?

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Hi Matt, that is a 145.037, a rare telestop reference. I would like to see also the face of this watch. Do you have movement pics?
 
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Thanks Flavio, very interesting, I've now just gone down a telestop rabbit hole....

No movement or case back pictures but there is a dial shot, and it's a racing dial which, as you said @flqt-9000, is highly likely to be a service dial.

Does anyone know the service dial tells (other than it looks too vibrant for a 48 year old watch)? I can't seem to find any resource that compares original racing and service racing dials...

Looking through the threads here on OF I read people saying that there were only around 50 - 1000 of these ever made. If that's true then there's a disproportionate amount of owners of these watches here on the forum.

Anyway, thanks again for your response. I really appreciate it.

Matt

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Does anyone know the service dial tells (other than it looks too vibrant for a 48 year old watch)? I can't seem to find any resource that compares original racing and service racing dials...
A lack of T Swiss Made T. You’d need a different angle to see under the tachymetre. It’s a service dial and the hands are not correct for a MKii.
 
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It’s a service dial and the hands are not correct for a MKii.
Unless there is more variation in the hands with telestops, I would expect it to look more like this (though I’m happy to be corrected). Also note the just visible T Swiss at this angle.
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What really makes a 145.037 is the case shape, that is different from both the 145.014 and 145.034. Here it is the detail to look at:
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Unless there is more variation in the hands with telestops, I would expect it to look more like this (though I’m happy to be corrected). Also note the just visible T Swiss at this angle.
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No, they all use the same hands, so the hands on the OP watch are not right.

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Does anyone know the service dial tells (other than it looks too vibrant for a 48 year old watch)? I can't seem to find any resource that compares original racing and service racing dials...

Looking through the threads here on OF I read people saying that there were only around 50 - 1000 of these ever made. If that's true then there's a disproportionate amount of owners of these watches here on the forum.
The service dials are still available, so likely many people have bought them and had them fitted to regular Mk II's.
 
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The service dials are still available, so likely many people have bought them and had them fitted to regular Mk II's.

Oh, sorry, I think there's been a misunderstanding, I meant the amount of people on OF that own telestops is high relative to production, not the amount of people with racing dials.

Supposedly the amount of telestops produced was exceptionally low (some posts here on OF say there were only ever 50 produced) with most of them being kept in Switzerland for the Swiss Olympic ski team to time their runs with the rest being sent to Spain for a similar undertaking.
 
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Oh, sorry, I think there's been a misunderstanding, I meant the amount of people on OF that own telestops is high relative to production, not the amount of people with racing dials.

Supposedly the amount of telestops produced was exceptionally low (some posts here on OF say there were only ever 50 produced) with most of them being kept in Switzerland for the Swiss Olympic ski team to time their runs with the rest being sent to Spain for a similar undertaking.
I think many of the assumptions made in the old OF posts are wrong or based upon limited availability of data..
 
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I just stumbled upon this MKII with strange looking pushers, and am curious to know if I've spotted an issue or if this is normal for this reference.

What's going on here? Are they incorrectly installed, the wrong size, or have the inserts that the pushers sit in been unwound? They do look like they're sitting too proud.

Would any of you kind people be willing to shed some light on this for me?

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You need pusher button clip snaps. It took my 2 hours to put them on. It holds pushers from inside.

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2 hours! Yikes!
 
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You need pusher button clip snaps. It took my 2 hours to put them on. It holds pushers from inside.

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I'm not sure what you're talking about but the watch I posted above has, at least, the case and pushers of a 145.037 which has pushers that are supposed to sit proud and have exposed threads like this.
 
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I'm not sure what you're talking about but the watch I posted above has, at least, the case and pushers of a 145.037 which has pushers that are supposed to sit proud and have exposed threads like this.
I’m talking about verry little u shaped clips that holds the pushers from inside which can be barely seen.

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I’m talking about verry little u shaped clips that holds the pushers from inside which can be barely seen.

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The pushers on this watch do not use clips like this - the pusher cap is held on by a screw.
 
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I don’t know the terminology perfectly and I do not have a speedmaster sadfully but I dissambled many watches for fun and they all have screws for the cap but for moving parts there must be something to hold. I searched for speedmaster clips and saw this o shaped things maybe it would help. I hope you will solve your issue. Have a nice day.

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Oh, now I get the issue. If the size is proper maybe wd40 would help.
 
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Here is a Telestop pusher still in the package...

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I'm not exactly sure what the concern is that the OP is bringing up, but I'm not seeing anything that looks wildly wrong with the pusher caps.
 
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