Steel Omega Speedmaster Apollo 11 50th Anniversary – This Is It!

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It is a nice looking watch. I think the dial is a very attractive but would like it better with all 3 sub dials being the same. I'm not a buyer so my opinion is mute.

That said, who does Omega consult for their box designs? Where do they get the First Step on the Moon occurred at 02:56:48 GMT? Since I'm a stickler for the exact times of historic NASA events I think this may be incorrect. Most conventional documentation puts Armstrong stepping on the Moon's surface at 02:56:15 GMT and making his statement. After years of research from the Apollo Surface Journal, considered the gold standard of Apollo surface event research, they have arrived at a time of 02:56:17 for Armstrong's first contact with the lunar surface and that his "That's one small step for (a) man; one giant leap for mankind." statement occurring at 02:56:23.

From the Apollo Surface Journal:

"Based on the times of transmissions prior to 109:24:12, Neil started to say "I'm going to step" at 109:24:12, stepped firmly on the surface at 109:24:17 (02:56:17 GMT), and started "That's one small step" at 109:24:23"

What has never been disputed is the time that Armstrong begins to describe the surface of the Moon which occurs at 02:56:48 GMT which is the time Omega uses on the box infering that is the time Armstrong sets foot on the Moon.

From the Apollo Surface Journal:

109:24:48 (02:56:48 GMT) Armstrong: Yes, the surface is fine and powdery. I can kick it up loosely with my toe. It does adhere in fine layers, like powdered charcoal, to the sole and sides of my boots. I only go in a small fraction of an inch, maybe an eighth of an inch, but I can see the footprints of my boots and the treads in the fine, sandy particles.

I know this is a petty point but so easily researched. Again, the ASJ admittedly acknowledges the time varies by a few seconds but Omega should have gone with the conventional time of 02:56:15 GMT or just 02:56 GMT. I could be completely wrong, but again the ASJ is the gold standard, and if the ASJ research is correct the time on the box is incorrect.

Got me curious ... Omega probably went with the raw NASA transcript - https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11transcript_tec.html



but I found this explanation from here - https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11.step.html
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@dscoogs I did see that paragraph as well and disregarded it because the new analysis of the raw transcript as written in the 3rd paragraph more closely matches the generally accepted time of 02:56:15 with the most recent analysis putting the first step closer to :17. I can see where Omega could have picked it up if these documents were used but it appears it's clearly inconsistent with what has come before. I'm really curious why they choose to go with the :48. Maybe it is explained in some literature to be included. If Omega thinks it's breaking new ground I think they might be out on a limb.

All I know is that if you do a Google search of 02:56:15 + Moon you get pages upon pages of The First Step on the Moon hits. Do the same search with 02:56:48 + Moon and I see one reference in book about the surface examination.

I'm curious enough to have emailed 2 of the ALSJ researchers asking the question "If I worked for Omega and wanted to know the exact time Armstrong stepped on the Moon what time would you provide me?" It will be interesting to see what they say.

Again, as I said earlier I could be completely wrong.
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In my understanding of the Omega world, Limited Edition and limited production are the same thing except they tell you the number being made up front with the LEs. 😉
The difference is that the limited edition has a set number of units that they will make and no more. Like the last Bond watch, they made only 7007 pieces. Limited production is that they may set a number of units per calendar year and if they have more demand they will produce more next year. Like the DSOTM Apollo 8, they built the first batch (I was told 2000 units by my OB ) and that is the one delivered this year. Maybe after all these new releases they will make more. In this case they can keep making batches of 2000 units every year for as long as it is profitable for them.
 
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Nothing on the inter webs has ever been wrong before. I’m gonna guess that Omega relies on other sources for info other than google.
 
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Nothing on the inter webs has ever been wrong before. I’m gonna guess that Omega relies on other sources for info other than google.

I'll concede that point to you. I'm only asking because I thought it might be possible the same guy that researched and created the Apollo 17 "Manking" box did this one as well. Maybe Omega should have consulted Google.
 
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Marking was a proofreader error not research 😀

Proofreader...You and Omega both 😀
 
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Ok it might be 02:56:18 instead of 02:56:48 - 1 instead of 4 - then, due to the same "proofreader" 😁😁
 
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It looks like “manking” strikes again.

From my contact at Omega:

“You were 100% corrrect on the time of Neil's step on the moon. I sent that to the powers to be and ask them to correct what they had. You would think they would pass that through me so I could verify if it was correct or not.

Thanks again for letting me know.”
 
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Would be interesting if they had some released in the wild with an incorrect time, and then the rest were all corrected before getting distributed. Would be like the 220 bezel.
 
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Can you have too many threads on this iconic watch?
Yes...if you have 21 posts on this forum...:whipped: