Speedy Tintin information gathering

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It does seem as though stock is now more or less depleted, and thus prices are on the rise. The reason I mentioned HQ Milton is that they're often mentioned on Hodinkee and have a focus on more collectible watches. Interesting therefore that they should be offering what is almost a brand new watch. By comparison to Rolex, they'll occasionally have a mid-00's 14060M Submariner or an early 2010's Hulk, but I haven't seen pieces from 2016 there before...

I didn't actually think of that. They do focus on collectible pieces and it is rare for something so new to be on their site. Maybe I should be a little more worried about desk rash as I type this 馃榿
 
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I didn't actually think of that. They do focus on collectible pieces and it is rare for something so new to be on their site. Maybe I should be a little more worried about desk rash as I type this 馃榿

Easy - just switch to a NATO strap! 馃槈
 
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Easy - just switch to a NATO strap! 馃槈
Arriving tomorrow LOL. Have a Heuerville on order as well. Bracelet is going back in the box this weekend. I prefer the look anyway, just couldnt let it sit!
 
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I've jokingly said to a few watch friends "I am the world's foremost expert on the Omega Speedmaster "Tintin" watch". Of course this is not true but I've owned three of these watches so far, so I'm allowed to pretend.

Production dates: the watch was first announced by Omega in early 2013, @Robert-Jan reported that the watch was quietly released before Baselworld that year. This makes sense to me, Omega had a lot of major announcements that year at Basel, the 15,000 Gauss movement, the Dark Side of the Moon, the introduction of Sedna Gold, etc. No room for poor little Tintin Speedy, which is the main reason it flew completely under the radar this whole time - there was never any marketing of this variation of the moonwatch. It was just tacked onto to the "steel on steel" Moonwatch collection with no fanfare, headlines, or story. First reference on the Omega website seems to be in April, and May 2013:
https://web.archive.org/web/2013042...dmaster/professional-moonwatch/31130423001004
https://web.archive.org/web/2013052...dmaster/professional-moonwatch/31130423001004

I assume production started roughly in that same time-frame, say 1H2013. Production seems to have been completed in roughly mid-2014, there are quotes from Omega folks saying as much, so this seems fairly reliable.

A person I spoke with from Omega, but not someone I would say is authoritative, told me they had allocated a set number of 861 movements for a new Speedy project, and he said the number was very low (and he further advised me to hang onto my Tintin as in the future the value would go way up because of the limited production... but what Omega person doesn't say that about every Omega timepiece?). He continued, the Tintin concept had been sitting on the shelf, having previously been shot down, but this time it got the ok to move forward as a concept for this allocation. The deal with Moulinsart subsequently falls through, and so they remove the copyright element but proceed with the basic design and production begins.

Number of Tintin's made: this is the biggest mystery with this timepiece, and the reality is that we may never know for sure. It's not numbered or limited, but there are people inside Omega that know, and they are not talking. In the absence of facts, and given this is the Internet - wild speculation will do just fine 馃榿 !!

Numbers as small as 400, and as large as 5000 have been tossed around (ok, I'm tossing out the 5000 number here for the first time, I figured we need an upper bound and that's as good a number as any). Personally, I think the real number is between those two extreme's. 400 is so small that I don't really think Omega would have commissioned a new project for it, without coming right out saying "limited edition", and thus driving up the price point. We know Omega is fond of LE's being 2k or more, why would they knowingly make ~500 without the LE tag? Further, it seems reasonable to me there had to have been more movements allocated for this project, than could have just been dumped into making more standard Speedy Pro's. Why go through the hassle of special dial production for just a few hundred pieces? What makes the really low figure plausible, is the collapse of the deal with Moulinsart.. it could be Omega responded by stopping production, modifying what had already been made and just pushing those out.

More anecdotal data: There has been a reliable supply of TIntin's that have been available in the resale market for the last year. If there were really only a few hundred, I don't see the resale market being this liquid. Name another piece, even if completely unloved, with as few as 400 pieces, that has seen a steady stream of available pieces in resale? I can't think of any. Omega boutiques could sell you a Tintin up until very recently, well past last date of production, so that suggests a reasonable number in the supply chain at the retail level.

So... that leaves us back where we started... HOW MANY? My absolute wild guess: 1600 2600

Serial #'s: I've completely given up trying to reverse engineer information based on movement serial numbers.

References: @Robert-Jan has done the best reporting by far on this (and probably is the most knowledgeable person outside Omega), I highly recommend anyone interested in this topic to go read all his stuff

http://www.fratellowatches.com/speedy-tuesday-omega-speedmaster-pro-tintin/
http://www.fratellowatches.com/speedy-tuesday-true-story-about-the-new-speedmaster-racing/
http://www.fratellowatches.com/speedy-tuesday-omega-speedmaster-pro-racing/
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/fratello/speedy_tuesday_omega_speedmaster_pro_tintin/
Thanks, mate. So far it looks like they only produced 70. Hehe.
 
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Great pic. Great dial. Moulinsart were fools for not wanting a Tintin association with The Speedmaster.

Lone star....Jamie is that you? DM of year 97. Peace, fellow Tintin owner!
 
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@repoman thanks for the info earlier. I love my TinTin (why have you owned 3 if I may ask?) and it increasing basically in value since the day I got it has certainly helped me feel good about the decision making process I went through.
 
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Although we'd all love to know if we never ever find out how many were made then that makes it more mysterious and desirable in a way
I have and will always stick to the 1957 as the number made being the year Tintin destination moon was published

It is a shame there will be no rocket on the dial - suits a moonwatch better than a snoopy, i think though yes I do understand the Nasa connection (and look what prices that one is going for)
 
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I am very mad at myself that I did not buy one. Been wanting one for the past few months and it seems the price have went up in that very short time-frame. 馃 There were a few on here that were NIB and very reasonable in price. With that being said, I guess I am back on the hunt.
 
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Although we'd all love to know if we never ever find out how many were made then that makes it more mysterious and desirable in a way
I have and will always stick to the 1957 as the number made being the year Tintin destination moon was published

It is a shame there will be no rocket on the dial - suits a moonwatch better than a snoopy, i think though yes I do understand the Nasa connection (and look what prices that one is going for)
Yes indeed, it would have been something special to have a rocketship on the dial or hands of a moonwatch.
I am very mad at myself that I did not buy one. Been wanting one for the past few months and it seems the price have went up in that very short time-frame. 馃 There were a few on here that were NIB and very reasonable in price. With that being said, I guess I am back on the hunt.
Prices have pretty much gone up since the end of 2016. And it happened pretty quick. There were 3 gray dealers offering it at ~$3300-$3400, but they either ran OOS or changed their prices in rapid succession. Minimum ebay prices went up too--not sure it was related--could just be all of the japanese sellers looked at prices and finally got a clue 馃榿 They're actually starting to sell for around $4k though. Ebay going rate for a used one (when they infrequently appeared) was right around $3000 USD until late 2016.
 
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It is impressive that they've been out for a couple years now but only recently did the increase begin. At least now more people are appreciating that gorgeous checkered dial.
 
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Hi . I own a Tintin. Beautiful piece but am willing to sell or trade. B and P. Mint. Want a , please don't laugh....Rolex sub
Call me at 404.360.4482
Hi . I own a Tintin. Beautiful piece but am willing to sell or trade. B and P. Mint. Want a , please don't laugh....Rolex sub
Call me at 404.360.4482
Do you live in the Atlanta area?I noticed the area code.How much are you asking for the watch?Please let me know.
 
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I'd love his contacts! Haven't been here long, but what he gets is impressive!
 
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One Tintin Available at Omega Boutique in geneva, ask for Stephane.
And according to some inside source from Omega about 2000 pcs were made.
First come first serve...
 
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How reliable is this inside source BTW? 2000 numbers seem to me a much lesser figure than what we could gauge from the market. It's still available at boutique after 4 years!! I don't know for sure what would be the exact number but very eager to know as a Tin Tin owner and fan.
 
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How reliable is this inside source BTW? 2000 numbers seem to me a much lesser figure than what we could gauge from the market. It's still available at boutique after 4 years!! I don't know for sure what would be the exact number but very eager to know as a Tin Tin owner and fan.
My sources are always very reliable.
I am looking for a few other models as well.
Mitsokushi box and papers & Japan racing are my top 2
 
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My sources are always very reliable.
I am looking for a few other models as well.
Mitsokushi box and papers & Japan racing are my top 2
Is that source an Omega employee or a watch enthusiast who "knows a guy who knows a guy?" We're not asking for any names of course--a little elaboration would be appreciated though 馃榾


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