Speedy Tintin information gathering

SpeedyTomorrow · Apr 7, 2019

tyrantlizardrex
That is utter nonsense.

They were available everywhere, non LE, and very unpopular with AD buyers, when released at Basel.

You could pick one up easily in an OB throughout 2016 - at one point in 2016 (and I know, because I was trying to get a deal based on how much stock was sitting around), the London OBs alone had 2-3 a piece.

And an AD (through a member here) ordered me a brand new one from Swatch Group stock, in mid 2016 - when they also had good availability.

This was, and continues to be an decisive design - you love it, or you don’t.

It wasn’t made for Asia, nor did Asian markets get the lions share.

Every market had great availability before the hype started - because no one wanted to buy this model.

Utter Nonsense? No. By 2016 they were redistributed. A local OB had zero and couldn’t get a single TinTin until 2017. They got 1. Compare that to other limited pieces that they get 3-4. It’s a well trafficked OB. We have close to 1500 pieces in existence. They were not readily available. And now they are gone completely. I had an OB recently offer me a 57 Trilogy Speedmaster plus cash for my TinTin. Nope.

SpeedyTomorrow · Apr 7, 2019

The Father
Not that it matters where the Tintins finally came to rest, is there still the consensus there are only 1500-2000 specimens out in the wilds.

100%.

Foo2rama · Apr 7, 2019

S SpeedyTomorrow
Utter Nonsense? No. By 2016 they were redistributed. A local OB had zero and couldn’t get a single TinTin until 2017. They got 1. Compare that to other limited pieces that they get 3-4. It’s a well trafficked OB. We have close to 1500 pieces in existence. They were not readily available. And now they are gone completely. I had an OB recently offer me a 57 Trilogy Speedmaster plus cash for my TinTin. Nope.

I like how your comparing watches that sold out in 3 hours to watch that had examples sitting unsold inside the boutique system for 3 years.

I’m not saying it’s not getting a nice resurgence currently, but from comments I’ve heard about this thread it’s not going to meet your expectations. Heck I could source 4 right now

SpeedyTomorrow · Apr 7, 2019

Foo2rama
I like how your comparing watches that sold out in 3 hours to watch that had examples sitting unsold inside the boutique system for 3 years.

I’m not saying it’s not getting a nice resurgence currently, but from comments I’ve heard about this thread it’s not going to meet your expectations. Heck I could source 4 right now

What expectations? I own one that I will never sell and I traded my second for a Daytona.

Foo2rama · Apr 7, 2019

S SpeedyTomorrow
What expectations? I own one that I will never sell and I traded my second for a Daytona.

You did a straight up trade for a Daytona?

I better go buy the 3 I see for under 6k lol and the other 10 for 8k... well pretty sure I could haggle at least 6 of them down... then the other 7 up around 10... then the other 9 at higher prices.

Seem to be a lot for sale for such a desired watch in low quantities.

SpeedyTomorrow · Apr 7, 2019

Foo2rama
You did a straight up trade for a Daytona?

I better go buy the 3 I see for under 6k lol and the other 10 for 8k... well pretty sure I could haggle at least 6 of them down... then the other 7 up around 10... then the other 9 at higher prices.

Seem to be a lot for sale for such a desired watch in low quantities.

Finding used, incomplete sets, etc. is easy. My pair were unworn full sets. A true collector wants pristine unworn sets.

Foo2rama · Apr 7, 2019

S SpeedyTomorrow
Finding used, incomplete sets, etc. is easy. My pair were unworn full sets. A true collector wants pristine unworn sets.

About 1/2 of the ones I listed are full unworn sets. 50% of the rest are full sets.

I’m sorry you have a watch you will never enjoy wearing.

Foo2rama · Apr 7, 2019

S SpeedyTomorrow
Finding used, incomplete sets, etc. is easy. My pair were unworn full sets. A true collector wants pristine unworn sets.

About 1/2 of the ones I listed are full unworn sets. 50% of the rest are full sets.

I’m sorry you have a watch you will never enjoy wearing.

SpeedyTomorrow · Apr 7, 2019

Foo2rama
About 1/2 of the ones I listed are full unworn sets. 50% of the rest are full sets.

I’m sorry you have a watch you will never enjoy wearing.

I wear my watches daily. No sympathy required. My recommendation to anyone, pickup a TinTin ASAP. Anything $10,000-$11,000 or under is a safe buy. Then enjoy, wear and watch as values rise. It’s a fun ride.

padders · Apr 8, 2019

S SpeedyTomorrow
What expectations? I own one that I will never sell and I traded my second for a Daytona.

I am confused. You said in your very first post. you traded it for a Batman, so which is it? Can we have sone pics of your watches, it might help to clear it up.

SpeedyTomorrow · Apr 8, 2019

padders
I am confused. I thought you said in your very first post. you traded it for a Batman? Can we have sone pics of your watches, it might help to clear it up.

No confusion. You’re reading comprehension might be lacking a bit, but I can assure you that little issue won’t have an affect on your future.

Foo2rama · Apr 8, 2019

padders
I am confused. You said in your very first post. you traded it for a Batman, so which is it? Can we have sone pics of your watches, it might help to clear it up.

He also said he was going to trade for a Daytona 3 months ago in 3 months...

padders · Apr 8, 2019

S SpeedyTomorrow
Here’s a lesson in what not to do with an Omega Speedmaster TinTin. My mistake a week back.

I get a call from a Rolex dealer that is around 3 hours away. I put in my name years back for a BLNR Batman on a work trip and forgot. To my surprise I get the call and I’m short on cash.

I offer my used Speedmaster TinTin in trade. Jokingly mind you. Not expecting the response. $8000 if I have the box and papers. I did have the box and papers.

I drive out there thinking this must be a mistake. No way is this watch already $8000. Well... A few hours later I own a Rolex BLNR Batman that cost me around $2k and a TinTin.

I drive home like I robbed a bank.

I then get home, find this thread and all the Omega TinTin articles and I’m full of regret.

Then about a week later rumor has it that the Batman is now discontinued so I’m even more conflicted. I don’t want to undo my trade but damn I regret letting go of the TinTin. I truly don’t want to wait when these are $15-$16,000 or more and I realize I can’t wait. I started selling a few things around the house on eBay and I’ve started looking at my lesser worn watches.

Here’s my issue, I just do not ever want to wear a previously worn watch. I need New Old Stock. I personally do not bond with previously worn watches. But it seems on the used market the TinTin is no longer possible NOS. I might not have an option but to buy a previously worn watch but again it has no appeal to me.

My hope is that I sell a few things and save up and get lucky and find an unworn TinTin. I might be dreaming but my dreams keep me working hard.

If you own a TinTin Cherish it. Something crazy is happening with this watch.

Nice to join and be a small part of this crazy subject and discussion. Cheers all!

S SpeedyTomorrow
No confusion. You’re reading comprehension might be lacking a bit, but I can assure you that little issue won’t have an affect on your future.

So was this correct or was it bullshit?

If correct, where does the Daytona come in?

Help a guy out with his comprehension since many of us are hanging on your every word.

SpeedyTomorrow · Apr 8, 2019

padders
So was this correct or was it bullshit?

If correct, where does the Daytona come in?

Help a guy out with his comprehension since many of us are hanging on your every word.

100% accurate. Now what’s next?

Foo2rama · Apr 8, 2019

S SpeedyTomorrow
100% accurate. Now what’s next?

So you traded 2 Tintins one for a Batman the other even trade for a new Daytona?

I was thinking... I have been to many many Omega collector watch events with literally over a hunderd speedies in attendance and I have never seen a PCA speedy in person. It must be super rare and valuable right? the sales man at Tourno told me he would sell me one at 25,000 should I buy up all of the ones I can find that are going for less since that sales guy told me that?

I swear I traded a Vantage (rare hamilton sub brand with the same movement as a Tudor) straight up for a double red, but I am not going to post pictures of the double red.

When my ST2 finally goes up, I have a guy that mentioned he might trade a Platona for it, should I do it in 3 months?

I'm curious why over the past few months have you paid almost 10k for a watch when NOS ones are available all over the place for under 8k? I know I never finished my MBA but that seems like a bad investment...

TLDR: The Tintin is a nice piece, it is at a high right now and I do not think you will see much more movement on it, as the high asking prices on the internet for them are sitting and not selling. There is a difference between asking and selling, and right now there is alot of inventory out there which does not bode well for it rising. Yes it has gone up the past year, and as such alot of people are unloading the watch and they are not selling, which tends to mean that the rise is over. Its true the piece never got the love it should have, but the same can be said for the brown dial which is also pretty uncommon. Relax and listen to the guys that actually have watched this market for years, and everyone is telling you the same thing.

SpeedyTomorrow · Apr 8, 2019

Foo2rama
So you traded 2 Tintins one for a Batman the other even trade for a new Daytona?

I was thinking... I have been to many many Omega collector watch events with literally over a hunderd speedies in attendance and I have never seen a PCA speedy in person. It must be super rare and valuable right? the sales man at Tourno told me he would sell me one at 25,000 should I buy up all of the ones I can find that are going for less since that sales guy told me that?

I swear I traded a Vantage (rare hamilton sub brand with the same movement as a Tudor) straight up for a double red, but I am not going to post pictures of the double red.

When my ST2 finally goes up, I have a guy that mentioned he might trade a Platona for it, should I do it in 3 months?

I'm curious why over the past few months have you paid almost 10k for a watch when NOS ones are available all over the place for under 8k? I know I never finished my MBA but that seems like a bad investment...

TLDR: The Tintin is a nice piece, it is at a high right now and I do not think you will see much more movement on it, as the high asking prices on the internet for them are sitting and not selling. There is a difference between asking and selling, and right now there is alot of inventory out there which does not bode well for it rising. Yes it has gone up the past year, and as such alot of people are unloading the watch and they are not selling, which tends to mean that the rise is over. Its true the piece never got the love it should have, but the same can be said for the brown dial which is also pretty uncommon. Relax and listen to the guys that actually have watched this market for years, and everyone is telling you the same thing.

Keep it simple.

padders · Apr 8, 2019

S SpeedyTomorrow
100% accurate. Now what’s next?

The bullshit bit? Yes as I suspected.

Funny, when challenged you become a man of few words.

SpeedyTomorrow · Apr 8, 2019

padders
The bullshit bit? Yes as I suspected.

Funny, when challenged you become a man of few words.

That’s interesting you challenged me? I’m sorry but you are no challenge. As for bullshit? My posts state events as they’ve transpired. A monkey could follow along. My posts will continue with that level of transparency. If you don’t like this thread or my posts, great! I’ll enjoy your continuing presence. You don’t pose a threat to anything consequential and so far each post of yours brings me to an almost giggle. Maybe the next one will get me into giggle territory. Keep honing your skills. I have faith. That’s what you are here for, the laughs and so far you’re not holding up your end of the bargain.

Foo2rama · Apr 8, 2019

S SpeedyTomorrow
That’s interesting you challenged me? I’m sorry but you are no challenge. As for bullshit? My posts state events as they’ve transpired. A monkey could follow along. My posts will continue with that level of transparency. If you don’t like this thread or my posts, great! I’ll enjoy your continuing presence. You don’t pose a threat to anything consequential and so far each post of yours brings me to an almost giggle. Maybe the next one will get me into giggle territory. Keep honing your skills. I have faith. That’s what you are here for, the laughs and so far you’re not holding up your end of the bargain.

Fine then answer my question...

How do you see a large sitting unsold inventory, and full set NOS examples sitting unsold for less then you paid as a sign that something is still going up?

There are more Tintins on the market then Brown Dials. How is that the case unless people are cashing out on the Tintins and they are not able to actually move them?

padders · Apr 8, 2019

You still haven’t explained how you traded a TinTin for a Daytona. You are talking about it as a done deal in the past tense above and no you haven’t been transparent. Nor have we seen a single photo from you to support any of it.