speedy prototype at drcrott

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I think everybody here would be interested to see more pictures of the horror show. If you have time, would be great, Max 👍

Date is noted, I can also take pictures of the other Omega watches if somone here is interested to bid on them.
Racing dial speedy for example or the 2915-3.

I‘m not sure what’s going on with his estimates this time though. They tend to be on the high side, but not as extreme as this one ... arguably quite nice condition but 85-120k€ for a Seamaster 2913?! (Lot 70)



Cheers,
Max
 
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I‘m not sure what’s going on with his estimates this time though. They tend to be on the high side, but not as extreme as this one ... arguably quite nice condition but 85-120k€ for a Seamaster 2913?! (Lot 70)
some people are one crack or they have added an 0
 
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From the auction description it seems that the museum has been silly enough to verify it.
 
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If you look for it, these prototype cases are everywhere.😉


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx4li0CCJij/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

Just want to say I think that's a fantastic looking watch - I'd love to have one.

But as for this one on auction? What BS. A rhodium plated bridge in a copper colored movement? The chapter ring obviously sitting over the lume plots? I mean I don't hate this for what it is - I think it looks kind of cool, in a "fantasy speedmaster" kind of way. But to pretend that this is an actual Omega produced prototype is completely dishonest.
 
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Someone send this thread to the auction house! Then when it turns out that its fake, the buyer can have a claim to sue them as they were made aware that they were selling something that is not Omega.
 
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That's just plain wrong. Lucky it stayed a prototype
 
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That's just plain wrong. Lucky it stayed a prototype
Read the thread 😉
 
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Read the thread 😉
You mean about it being probably a fake prototype? I'm not sure - it could well be legit but it's just not very nice looking
 
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The disparity in age and wear of the constituent parts, modern service dust cover, well worn bracelet and dial, new old stock condition case make for a bad start. The parts not really sitting well together make it worse, and the fact the case is from an identified source that is non Omega kills it.
 
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You mean about it being probably a fake prototype? I'm not sure - it could well be legit but it's just not very nice looking
Not probably. No extract, serial number way out of line for claimed era, and fonts on dial.
 
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From the auction description it seems that the museum has been silly enough to verify it.

I contacted the Auction house for further information and I am relieved to hear that the Omega Museam have nothing to do with this watch or its provenance. A misleading description to say the least!





The above description suggests confirmed provenance and authenticity to me, but the auction house could provide none when asked



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I contacted the Auction house for further information and I am relieved to hear that the Omega Museam have nothing to do with this watch or its provenance. A misleading description to say the least!





The above description suggests confirmed provenance and authenticity to me, but the auction house could provide none when asked



Wow they are claiming it’s been authenticated but have no proof. Wow. I’d point them to this thread.
 
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And is the good Swiss collector a member of this forum? Would be interesting to know.
 
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Can't wait to put my green dialed 'hulk soleil' rolex collab protype speedmaster up for auction...I also got confirmation from both Omega and Rolex of its importance and prototype status, but no official document as the serial numbers for such important prototypes under top secret collaboration between arch enemies are understandably not on record...double the provenance, double the money. And it also comes with papers...



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Should someone point Isaac (the author of that Bring a Loupe article) to this thread?
 
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For posterity (this bs will not remain published) :
HODINKEE said:
1970 Omega Speedmaster Professional Prototype
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I'm not going to dance around the elephant in the room with talk of the moon mission. This is a special watch. If you're not sure what I'm talking about, I'd suggest focusing a tad bit closer on the bezel and edge of this Speedmaster's dial. Unlike the bulk of examples that were manufactured around its time of production, this one's tachymeter has been printed on its dial so as to make way for a rotating bezel. This is a combination I've personally never seen, and am therefore delighted to learn of its existence.

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If you pay attention to the vintage market, you'll know that wildly configured iconic watches of dubious authenticity and provenance are often sold as prototypes, with only the word of one supposed expert to support such a notion. That's why this watch is noteworthy – it's not just a prototype, but a confirmed prototype. Biel’s Omega Museum has corroborated its prototype status, even going as far as to inform prospective bidders that its movement numbers further confirm it to be a prototype. Above all, this highlights the power of diligent record-keeping, and the importance of the heritage-focused departments at our beloved brands.

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The only detail I question is the reference number that the auction house believes it corresponds with. It's listed as a "Ref. 2413" as a result of a faint inscription on its caseback. Omega collectors will know that the Ref. 2413 is in fact a time-only watch powered by the ultra-thin Cal. 360. My guess is this number on the caseback is for internal records purposes in reference to the project.

Dr. Crott Auctioneers will offer this rare Speedmaster in a sale taking place on November 15th in Frankfurt. Its estimate has been set at €32,000 to €42,000. More details along with the rest of the catalogue can be found here.

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For posterity (this bs will not remain published) :


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And he’s a member here

@isaacwin


Isaac Wingold
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