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jurisevac@
路End there we goo again,10% difference in price between 2915-3 and 2998-1 isn't correct,2915-3 have oval"O" dial and lieave to be rare and expensive part in original watch, and last sell watch 2915-3 for $80,000+ is 40% more than price for collectors grade watch in price chart.
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kkt
路What surprises me is that Spacefruit is able to collect sales prices, rather than asking prices. If the buyer and seller agree on a lower price, which is common, neither of them will necessarily be eager to disclose that to the world. It's not like real estate, where the price agreed is publicly reported.
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flame
路What surprises me is that Spacefruit is able to collect sales prices, rather than asking prices. If the buyer and seller agree on a lower price, which is common, neither of them will necessarily be eager to disclose that to the world. It's not like real estate, where the price agreed is publicly reported.
Hi
I've previously sold to Mr S & also provided 拢GBP figures for other deals too....not a biggie !
Best - Neil
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oddboy
路^as have I.
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dscoogs
路Many thanks to SF's Price Chart I comfortably paid a "Good" price for my 145.022-68 a few weeks ago.
Wondering what the July 2019 (50th anniversary of Apollo 11) Price Chart would look like ... 馃嵖
Wondering what the July 2019 (50th anniversary of Apollo 11) Price Chart would look like ... 馃嵖
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Taddyangle
路What surprises me is that Spacefruit is able to collect sales prices, rather than asking prices. If the buyer and seller agree on a lower price, which is common, neither of them will necessarily be eager to disclose that to the world. It's not like real estate, where the price agreed is publicly reported.
On several occasions I have asked an ebay seller what the sold price was for a watch. No issue sharing in these cases. Other members have shared their buy and sell prices with me.
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Spacefruit
路路Prolific Speedmaster HoarderEnd there we goo again,10% difference in price between 2915-3 and 2998-1 isn't correct,2915-3 have oval"O" dial and lieave to be rare and expensive part in original watch, and last sell watch 2915-3 for $80,000+ is 40% more than price for collectors grade watch in price chart.
The price chart reflects actual trades, not perceived values. It does not say what watches ought to trade for. This does mean that a price can go along without change - because there has not been an actual trade to report and therefore change it.
So I do not disagree that a 2915-3 might sell for more than the price chart figure (that reflects previous trades), shows. It just has not yet, the Christies watch not withstanding.
The 2915-3 sold by Christies, was exceptional. I know the watch and I know the seller. (Interestingly he genuinely expected it to sell for more, and was disappointed in the result). It was an outlier, in far better condition that any 2915-3 I have seen elsewhere, in a collection or on offer. It (rightly) went for more than double any other 2915-3 trade I know of. To adjust the price upward to reflect this single trade would not be helpful. However I did report that very trade in the price chart notes.
It is only intended as a guide. The rare 2915's are included but you must take those prices under advisement, in the knowledge that they are very rare, the trades numbering less than 10 a year, often with terrible omissions or problems.
I think anyone buying a 2915 will have the confidence to ignore what I write and they will buy based on desire and what they can afford.
As I keep saying, the chart is only as good as the observations I make, and the kindness of collectors who share their stories with me.
As yet, no collector has shared a trade of a 2915-3 for more than $40,000 and most have been under 25,000. As soon as they do, the chart will reflect it.
One last philosophical point. Just because a 2915-3 is rarer than a 2998-1 does that make it more valuable? I would argue there are more potential buyers of a 2998 that a 2915. Rarity does not dictate value, sometimes something is too rare to have a strong following.
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Badwolf
路End there we goo again,10% difference in price between 2915-3 and 2998-1 isn't correct,2915-3 have oval"O" dial and lieave to be rare and expensive part in original watch, and last sell watch 2915-3 for $80,000+ is 40% more than price for collectors grade watch in price chart.
Where do we find your chart?
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Spacefruit
路路Prolific Speedmaster HoarderWww.speedmaster101.com
Edit: oh you mean his chart....馃槈
@jurisevac@ is extremely knowledgeable if slightly impenetrable. I suspect he knows more about 2915-3's than anyone else.
So I guess a little skin in the game. 馃檮
As for starting my chart, I wonder
Like having sex with a gorilla.
While it might seem a good idea to start, it's not me that gets to decide when to stop.
The chart is the same...started when I was confined by injury now I have to keep it going....
Edit: oh you mean his chart....馃槈
@jurisevac@ is extremely knowledgeable if slightly impenetrable. I suspect he knows more about 2915-3's than anyone else.
So I guess a little skin in the game. 馃檮
As for starting my chart, I wonder
Like having sex with a gorilla.
While it might seem a good idea to start, it's not me that gets to decide when to stop.
The chart is the same...started when I was confined by injury now I have to keep it going....
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noiseboyuk
路Because we are 'collectors' and we love watches, it is likely that we will go the extra mile to acquire the watch we crave - almost at any price.
Whilst a price list can be a useful guide it becomes irrelevant for some in the individual pursuit of that 'special' watch.
Nonetheless, Spacefruit has my total admiration for compiling a price list and providing such a great resource.
It must take an inordinate amount of time and dedication to keep it all up to date with so much new information surfacing, not to mention the spectacular increases in value that we are seeing.
Well done Spacefruit.
Whilst a price list can be a useful guide it becomes irrelevant for some in the individual pursuit of that 'special' watch.
Nonetheless, Spacefruit has my total admiration for compiling a price list and providing such a great resource.
It must take an inordinate amount of time and dedication to keep it all up to date with so much new information surfacing, not to mention the spectacular increases in value that we are seeing.
Well done Spacefruit.
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STANDY
路路schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorGreat work on the chart and everything to do with your site @Spacefruit
Too many new to the game that want a short cut to their dream watch without the years put into research like yourself and many members here with great collections. How many first posts here with people chasing a pre moon 321 in the last 12 months.............Only going to grow coming up to the 50th anniversary of the moon landing 馃槜
Too many new to the game that want a short cut to their dream watch without the years put into research like yourself and many members here with great collections. How many first posts here with people chasing a pre moon 321 in the last 12 months.............Only going to grow coming up to the 50th anniversary of the moon landing 馃槜
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Igora
路I totally agree with noiseboyuk!
we will go the extra mile to get the watch that we like!
we will go the extra mile to get the watch that we like!
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Inox
路What surprises me is that Spacefruit is able to collect sales prices, rather than asking prices. If the buyer and seller agree on a lower price, which is common, neither of them will necessarily be eager to disclose that to the world. It's not like real estate, where the price agreed is publicly reported.
Hi
I've previously sold to Mr S & also provided 拢GBP figures for other deals too....not a biggie !
Best - Neil
So have I.
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Slevin kelevra
路What surprises me is that Spacefruit is able to collect sales prices, rather than asking prices. If the buyer and seller agree on a lower price, which is common, neither of them will necessarily be eager to disclose that to the world. It's not like real estate, where the price agreed is publicly reported.
Anyone who has had even the slightest of dealings with @Spacefruit very quickly learns that there is absolutely no concern to be had over sharing information.
I wonder how much time he has taken out of his life to help newbie Speedmaster "collectors" ? More than a few I would bet!
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bokbok
路Dame them speedys have rocket last few years [emoji1]
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oddboy
路I'd still love to see some mechanism of history on the sp101 price chart, but I guess that would just be depressing... 馃槈
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Kmart
路I think that the price chart is quite accurate on the whole, especially for anything pre-moon. I would say the only disparity I notice is that the later references do seem to generally trade slightly above what the chart would suggest. At least if you take the description to heart. I.e. most of the watches I see sold are unserviced which would indicate "running" status and yet achieve good+ sales easily.
Ultimately I don't think it really matters that much though as it's definitely hard to pin down exact prices on these watches because there are so many little things that can cause them to go a few hundred bucks one way or another. And actually I totally overpaid for my (unserviced) 145.022-74 so I am 100% part of the problem. 馃槜馃う
Not that I care... just look at it! 馃グ
Ultimately I don't think it really matters that much though as it's definitely hard to pin down exact prices on these watches because there are so many little things that can cause them to go a few hundred bucks one way or another. And actually I totally overpaid for my (unserviced) 145.022-74 so I am 100% part of the problem. 馃槜馃う
Not that I care... just look at it! 馃グ
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Dre
路I think that the price chart is quite accurate on the whole, especially for anything pre-moon. I would say the only disparity I notice is that the later references do seem to generally trade slightly above what the chart would suggest. At least if you take the description to heart. I.e. most of the watches I see sold are unserviced which would indicate "running" status and yet achieve good+ sales easily.
Ultimately I don't think it really matters that much though as it's definitely hard to pin down exact prices on these watches because there are so many little things that can cause them to go a few hundred bucks one way or another. And actually I totally overpaid for my (unserviced) 145.022-74 so I am 100% part of the problem. 馃槜馃う
Not that I care... just look at it! 馃グ
Am I seeing chocolate there on your -74?
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Kmart
路Am I seeing chocolate there on your -74?
No chocolate, just a trick of the light I'm afraid. One of the many things I like about this watch, it's a real chameleon depending on the lighting. The dial is actually a fairly immaculate black with some great patina on the hands/indices and the bezel is a nice shade of gray. Here's another picture in more diffused light:
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