Speedmaster Professional Urgently good advice needed

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Hello everyone, I have become the heir of an Omega and did not know the value of it. My best friend, however, shook me awake and recommended me to repair the watch.
I have found a renowned master watchmaker that repairs historical watches and he has made me an offer.He is Omega Certified.
Since the watch is not functional and has never received any maintenance, I would like to have one carried out.
A potentially negative point is that the dial was repaired once because the dial feet were broken, which is what you from the front
Unfortunately, can recognize.
It is an Omega Speedmaster Professional , serial number: 2963XXXX
145.022-69, DON Bezel, Tropical Dial

He now proposes the following :
1. Omega Speedmaster - Maintenance
Basic package - Technical repair

The basic service includes all measures to restore the best possible new technical condition.
The movement is subjected to a fine revision. During the fine revision, the movement is completely constantly disassembled into all individual parts, whereby all individual parts are tested for wear and hand
Pre-cleaned. Defective parts are replaced or repaired.
The drive spring should also be replaced to prevent a later fatigue fracture.
Subsequently, the movement in the watch cleaning machine is cleaned with water-free cleaning solutions. Some parts are then treated in the epilamization process in order to significantly reduce the course of the oil in the future, the movement is assembled and lubricated with fully synthetic oils and greases (no resining). All settings of the movement are checked and
Corrected if necessary. After assembly, the movement is regulated in 6 layers on the time scale and then tested in the case on the watch winder. In addition to the accuracy, the
proper functioning of the automatic and the compliance with the power reserve checked.
In order to optimally protect the movement from dust and moisture from the wrist after revision, the water resistance should also be restored as much as possible. Everyone will here
necessary measures taken, such as the replacement of aged seals, crowns, pushers and helium valve or components with encapsulated seal. The crown tube often also needs to be replaced
become.

In vintage watches, components such as the crown are restored and overhauled and seals replaced, if necessary.

The water resistance service also includes the complete disassembly of the housing including disassembly and assembly of all housing components and seals, in addition, an ultrasonic cleaning of the housing is carried out. Other small works are also included.
These measures ensure that the watch is back in perfect technical condition in every respect.

2. Additional effort Fine revision -
Maintenance backlog

The revision price includes all wearing parts that are produced when compliance with standard service intervals. Components that wear out only in the case of excessive overload are not included in the price and will be charged separately. Rust or impact damage is also calculated separately.

3. Optional !
Maintenance Additional package - Optical repair !

In addition to the basic package, an optical repair including refreshment of the housing can also be carried out.
Here, the original cuts and polishes on the housing and band are restored.
The watch is thus visually rejuvenated again significantly.
Only with a lot of experience can you distinguish such a refurbished clock housing from a new watch!
By the way: Deep scratches and quirks on the housing are welded to the identical material before working up in the micro-welding process in order to achieve an optimal result of the work-up with minimum material removal.
In part, this can also compensate for previous misreprocessing.
If useful, the lapidation machine is also used for the reconditioning, whereby the housing retains or recovers its original shape.

Further optical corrections such as the repair of chipped paint on pointers or other cosmetic improvements are also carried out in the context of optical repair.

My question is not about me that I distrust the watchmaker but I want to know what is meaningful to let do . The research on speedmaster 101 has unsettled me even more. A watch that possibly loses the patina and thus its collector's value would be the horror for me. I just don't know anything about it!
Unfortunately, I don't have any other photos at the moment.

 
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The movement service sounds standard and a good idea.

I would skip the “Optical repair” part as that is where you can easily lose the vintage appeal and value of your watch.

Your photos are not focused and it’s difficult to see dial details.
 
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Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, I don’t have any other pictures since the watch is already at the watchmaker’s.
 
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Hello and welcome!

Absolutely get it serviced.

I also would recommend not doing anything listed under "optical". You can also source another mid-case that has better shape and keep your original one.

One thing you will want to do is get the incorrect service hands replaced with correct hands.
If you can I would get the new service hands re-lumed with a lume color/patina that matches the rest of the watch.
 
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You can also source another mid-case that has better shape
Only do that if you really know what you are doing
 
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Only do that if you really know what you are doing
Yes, I guess I should be more explicit.

If this is a route you want to entertain, ask your watchmaker on an estimate to source the correct midcase for this reference, and get a quote vs refiguring your current one. I would still just recommend you stick with the case you have.
 
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Hello and welcome!

Absolutely get it serviced.

I also would recommend not doing anything listed under "optical". You can also source another mid-case that has better shape and keep your original one.

One thing you will want to do is get the incorrect service hands replaced with correct hands.
If you can I would get the new service hands re-lumed with a lume color/patina that matches the rest of the watch.
Yes, I guess I should be more explicit.

If this is a route you want to entertain, ask your watchmaker on an estimate to source the correct midcase for this reference, and get a quote vs refiguring your current one. I would still just recommend you stick with the case you have.
 
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@Kohägen looks like you just quoted my reply and did not add your message to it.
 
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The optional cosmetic repair is very fine work, and only a very few people in the world are really capable of doing a good job of it. It's not just a matter of making the case and dial look better, because you want them to look the way they originally looked.

In general, I would not recommend doing that work because it could end up detracting from the watch.
 
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Yes, I guess I should be more explicit.

If this is a route you want to entertain, ask your watchmaker on an estimate to source the correct midcase for this reference, and get a quote vs refiguring your current one. I would still just recommend you stick with the case you have.

You can’t just get a quote to replace the mid case. 60’s cases aren’t being made any longer so you’d be getting a modern service case which is different. Unless the original is badly damaged this wouldn’t be something to recommend
 
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You can’t just get a quote to replace the mid case. 60’s cases aren’t being made any longer so you’d be getting a modern service case which is different. Unless the original is badly damaged this wouldn’t be something to recommend
I understand that, estimate and a range would have been more appropriate wording. A experienced watchmaker adept to working in vintage can certainly do so. And im strictly talking about sourcing a 145.022 midcase from this era, not a modern service item.

I agree its something that should be done if the case is is really rough shape with from the limited photos, doesnt seem to be the case.
 
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I understand that, estimate and a range would have been more appropriate wording. A experienced watchmaker adept to working in vintage can certainly do so. And im strictly talking about sourcing a 145.022 midcase from this era, not a modern service item.

I agree its something that should be done if the case is is really rough shape with from the limited photos, doesnt seem to be the case.

It may seem I’m being pedantic but do you know of occasions where watchmakers have sourced vintage midcases?

I certainly don’t. A mid case is a very uncommon thing to change on a watch and when it does happen, it’s usually on an exchange basis for a modern service case.
There was a thread recently where members discussed the low number of vintage Speedmaster cases for sale.

Imo (and I apologise if I’m wrong and there are several examples of this happening) you should be careful suggesting this as a valid course of action as it can become truth once it’s posted to the internet and there are risks associated.
1. Genuine vintage mid cases are hard to find.
2. I don’t think any watchmakers would offer to locate one.
3. Even if they did, I cant see how they could give any estimate for the cost given the low number for sale.
4. There’s a good chance you’d end up with a random mid case and not one from the correct year.
5. It’s much more likely imo there could be a mix up in communication, certainly for less experienced collectors, who could end up with a modern service case, in an exchange basis, meaning not only wouldn’t they get a ‘new’ vintage case, but they’d loose their current one.
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Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, I don’t have any other pictures since the watch is already at the watchmaker’s.
a) The first thing you do is take really good pictures (neither on the arm nor in the hand) for documentation. b) The watchmaker needs to know (in writing/email) what NOT to do! my2cents