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Speedmaster moon NOS? 1970 145.022
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I was using "fratellowatches" for most reading. I didn't get into speedmaster101 yet. There is a lot to read everywhere I go. My MWO book comes in next week. I cannot wait!
In the 70s they only made the 145.022 (with several sub-references -68, -69, -71, -74, -76, -78) and this is what you'll find inside the caseback. The 145.0022 was a later service replacement caseback.
I recommend start reading here:
http://speedmaster101.com/
I was using "fratellowatches" for most reading. I didn't get into speedmaster101 yet. There is a lot to read everywhere I go. My MWO book comes in next week. I cannot wait!
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I was using "fratellowatches" for most reading. I didn't get into speedmaster101 yet. There is a lot to read everywhere I go. My MWO book comes in next week. I cannot wait!
MWO is a wonderful compendium. Once you read this, you're about to start.
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Screwbacks
·how much? if it's very cheap, stay away from it.😁
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThe seal is unbroken...The watch has never been opened since it left the factory. What a find! 😀
The “seal” is just a dab of model paint, so is something that can easily be reproduced. Not saying this has been or commenting on the watch, just saying that the red dot doesn’t mean much...
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·It certainly seems to look the part, The crater box alone is worth silly money. Yep , the red seal is seen from time to time. Do you plan to wear it? I'd be a little scared. Seller must be asking an awful lot of money.
Yes its a "pretty damn" price tag...i just wondered for a sec in 20yrs would this go even further.
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OMEGuy
·The “seal” is just a dab of model paint, so is something that can easily be reproduced. Not saying this has been or commenting on the watch, just saying that the red dot doesn’t mean much...
Correct. But when did you see a fake red seal on a NOS looking watch for the last time?
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Why are the dial shots hiding the aspects needed to be seen to authenticate it??
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·I would be interested to read the whole story about this watch - where from, how much, etc. etc. I sincerely hope that it is authentic.
The chances of finding NOS from the 70s (and beyond) always makes for a good story - here’s an example of a shop in South America that kept stock of collectable items from the mid 70s, and was reluctant to sell the highly prized items, because ‘they reminded the shop owner of his departed family’ https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2014/nov/02/adidas-hidden-hoard-in-argentina-ian-brown
Does this Speedy have a similar story?
The chances of finding NOS from the 70s (and beyond) always makes for a good story - here’s an example of a shop in South America that kept stock of collectable items from the mid 70s, and was reluctant to sell the highly prized items, because ‘they reminded the shop owner of his departed family’ https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2014/nov/02/adidas-hidden-hoard-in-argentina-ian-brown
Does this Speedy have a similar story?
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerCorrect. But when did you see a fake red seal on a NOS looking watch for the last time?
Not sure, because the “fake” red dot is indistinguishable from a “real” red dot, which is my point. Again if you read what I wrote, I’m not commenting on this watch. Using the red dot as proof of anything is questionable is all I’m saying.
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·Not sure, because the “fake” red dot is indistinguishable from a “real” red dot, which is my point. Again if you read what I wrote, I’m not commenting on this watch. Using the red dot as proof of anything is questionable is all I’m saying.
I understand. But seeing a NOS watch with a red dot should not be an argument for letting it go, right?
I'm not affiliated with buyer or seller in any way (and I wish I was the buyer), but sometimes this global mistrust in everything we see gets on my nerves.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerI understand. But seeing a NOS watch with a red dot should not be an argument for letting it go, right?
I'm not affiliated with buyer or seller in any way (and I wish I was the buyer), but sometimes this global mistrust in everything we see gets on my nerves.
You are not reading my posts...one last time...
I’m not commenting on this particular watch. I can’t make it any clearer than that...
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OMEGuy
·The “seal” is just a dab of model paint, so is something that can easily be reproduced. Not saying this has been or commenting on the watch, just saying that the red dot doesn’t mean much...
I've read this post.
And I wondered why you just right here put the point to the possibility that the seal might be fake, what I believe is not.
I read a lot of your excellent posts... Tell me why you don't want to comment on this watch
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerI've read this post.
And I wondered why you just right here put the point to the possibility that the seal might be fake, what I believe is not.
I’m saying that the presence of the seal is not a reliable indicator of the fact that a watch has “never been opened”. If you believe that it is, that is your choice, and we can certainly agree to disagree on this point.
Not only is this “seal” easily reproduced, but I have had a number of watches come into my shop with the seal seemingly still intact, but that have been opened. When examined under magnification, you can see a very faint line where the seal has been broken, and the case back has been lined up again.
This is one reason why Omega stopped using the red seal on new watches and the blue seal on factory serviced watches. They were ineffective at doing what they were intended to do...
Again I’m not making any comment on this particular watch specifically.
Cheers, Al
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Dan S
·Maybe it's weird lighting or something, but there appears to be orange lume on the sweep hand, and greenish lume on the dial and the other hands. I'd want to see better photos of the dial and hands before putting my money down.
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simonsays
·So I am very happy it is a NOS 145.0022, and based on this worth £10k? Or would you go to the £20k the vendor is asking?
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...So I am very happy it is a NOS 145.0022, and based on this worth £10k? Or would you go to the £20k the vendor is asking?
Second it’s a 145.022-71 at the earliest it could even be a -74. Collectors grade is $6800 or $6000.
Add the bracelet and boxes and NOS condition .... 10k US would be the most I’d pay.
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·Dial pictures are needed.
Second it’s a 145.022-71 at the earliest it could even be a -74. Collectors grade is $6800 or $6000.
Add the bracelet and boxes and NOS condition .... 10k US would be the most I’d pay.
You wouldn't win an auction with that bid though. $13,000 I think would be a good price, but the $27,000 being asked is a bit ambitious.
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