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Speedmaster Model identification help
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··Prolific Speedmaster HoarderWell its an assembly, albeit a possibly quite valuable one - well the dial is.
It is a 105.003 dial, highly sought after, and an asymmetric case - and who knows what movement is inside, lets hope its a 321 otherwise that valuable dial might have suffered some minor damage, as its not designed for an 861 movement.
Getting it back to any sort of correct condition will require a lot of parts, and that is after you decide what you actually have. It could be a 69 case and movement with the wrong dial, or a 65 dial and movement in the wrong case.
Either way, if it were me, I would find a bezel, service it and not change anything, keep the history.
Next step is to see the movement, the number and the inner case back.
It is a 105.003 dial, highly sought after, and an asymmetric case - and who knows what movement is inside, lets hope its a 321 otherwise that valuable dial might have suffered some minor damage, as its not designed for an 861 movement.
Getting it back to any sort of correct condition will require a lot of parts, and that is after you decide what you actually have. It could be a 69 case and movement with the wrong dial, or a 65 dial and movement in the wrong case.
Either way, if it were me, I would find a bezel, service it and not change anything, keep the history.
Next step is to see the movement, the number and the inner case back.
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·Thanks for the info. When you say it’s an assembly what does that mean? It was purchased new and my Dad hasn’t had any work done on it, even a service, so I assume this is how it came out of the factory?? Is that not likely the case?
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·I found the attached picture online and thought this looked the same??
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·I found the attached picture online and thought this looked the same??
Left and right are 2 different watches - yours is a little bit of both
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·Try to open the watch and show us the inside of the caseback and the movement. Catalog pics and ads where often just illustrations of designer, not everything showing actual watches. But who knows 😉
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·That’s why I assumed it must be the right hand model. Crown protectors and no pro on the dial.
In terms of opening the back, I’ve been reluctant as the red dot is in place and I’m no watch expert. Is it safe for me to open myself or should I take to a pro??
In terms of opening the back, I’ve been reluctant as the red dot is in place and I’m no watch expert. Is it safe for me to open myself or should I take to a pro??
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·But the right pics shows a professional without professional on the dial too 😉
oh I saw 105.012 and made 3 line assumption. Good catch
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·That’s why I assumed it must be the right hand model. Crown protectors and no pro on the dial.
In terms of opening the back, I’ve been reluctant as the red dot is in place and I’m no watch expert. Is it safe for me to open myself or should I take to a pro??
Take it to a pro for sure
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·I love a good mystery!
If you are in the UK you need to contact Simon Freese - http://www.simonfreesewatchmakers.com/
He knows everything about these watches and can sort out any problem you may have.
Jack
If you are in the UK you need to contact Simon Freese - http://www.simonfreesewatchmakers.com/
He knows everything about these watches and can sort out any problem you may have.
Jack
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·Thanks I’ll get in contact.
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··Oooo subtitles!But the right pics shows a professional without professional on the dial too 😉
As William notes, the OP watch has an Ed White dial, post 67 Pro caseback and pushers and who knows what internals. It received some major revisions at some point alright. Note the red dot is on the case and doesn’t mean the back hasn’t been off. In fact it rather suggests it has since there is none on the back.
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·But no watch ever left the factory like that, as you say it was from a graphic designers imagination, that drawing is the only time that configuration has ever been seen and has been posted many times.
As William notes, the OP watch has an Ed White dial, post 67 Pro caseback and pushers and who knows what internals. It received some major revisions at some point alright. Note the red dot is on the case and doesn’t mean the back hasn’t been off. In fact it rather suggests it has since there is none on the back.
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·Strange. Just checked with my father and he confirms he bought it brand new from the NAAFI shop on base and it’s never been in to a shop since! Off to an omega centre for further investigations!
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·Back from the Omega approved jeweller and the watch is on its way to Omega. Confirmed as a calibre 321. Picture to follow.
What would you expect to see on the inside of the back cover??
What would you expect to see on the inside of the back cover??
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·What do you mean on its way to Omega? To do what? Number 1 rule here: Never send your vintage Omega to Omega (except its totally damaged or has service parts anyway)!!!
The pic you posted is crap. Why dont you post both pics...caseback and movement. Smells fishy this way...
The pic you posted is crap. Why dont you post both pics...caseback and movement. Smells fishy this way...
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·Back from the Omega approved jeweller and the watch is on its way to Omega. Confirmed as a calibre 321. Picture to follow.
What would you expect to see on the inside of the back cover??
You may want to seriously reconsider sending the watch to Omega. Most likely they will change parts that may destroy some of the value and/or the sentimental value.
Much better to send this to a good independent watch maker that will give it a sympathetic vintage watch service. Those here can give you some good recommendations based on location.
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·What do you mean on its way to Omega? To do what? Number 1 rule here: Never send your vintage Omega to Omega (except its totally damaged or has service parts anyway)!!!
The pic you posted is crap. Why dont you post both pics...caseback and movement. Smells fishy this way...
