Speedmaster featured in Moonfall

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I doubt that Omega is quite as desperate to be compared to Rolex as you might think. 😉

This is a weird thing to say during a discussion about this scene 😵‍💫
 
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This is a weird thing to say during a discussion about this scene 😵‍💫
I'm not sure what's weird about responding to a point that you were evidently trying to make - that the scene somehow makes Omega look desperate in wanting to be compared to Rolex. Perhaps I misunderstood what you wrote?
 
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I'm not sure what's weird about responding to a point that you were evidently trying to make - that the scene somehow makes Omega look desperate in wanting to be compared to Rolex. Perhaps I misunderstood what you wrote?

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The plot of the exchange is that Vespa guesses/mistakes the watch for a Rolex, and Craig corrects her, suggesting that Rolex and Omega may be confused/compared but that Bond prefers Omega over Rolex.

I understand that both you and Omega think this quip itself puts “a stick in the eye of Rolex,” as you put it.

But to me, as greasily employed in the film, I rather think that Omega jabbing this stick reflects more poorly on Omega than anything.

Smells of this:

 
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The plot of the exchange is that Vespa guesses/mistakes the watch for a Rolex, and Craig corrects her, suggesting that Rolex and Omega may be confused/compared but that Bond prefers Omega over Rolex.


And here I thought her name was Vesper. Turns out hot af she's named an Italian scooter...
Oh well...
 
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The plot of the exchange is that Vespa guesses/mistakes the watch for a Rolex, and Craig corrects her, suggesting that Rolex and Omega may be confused/compared but that Bond prefers Omega over Rolex.

I understand that both you and Omega think this quip itself puts “a stick in the eye of Rolex,” as you put it.

But to me, as greasily employed in the film, I rather think that Omega jabbing this stick reflects more poorly on Omega than anything.

Smells of this:

I think that perhaps you're reading too much into a five second segment in a four minute scene, but to each his own. My point was that the scene is really far more about the interaction between the two characters than it is about Omega vs. Rolex. Most who viewed the film weren't likely consumers of luxury Swiss watches and couldn't have cared less about either brand. If Rolex received a sharp stick in the eye relative to the Bond franchise, it was more likely being supplanted by Omega as Bond's watch beginning with Goldeneye. Seems appropriate given that Omega, not Rolex, was once an official supplier to the Royal Navy and Bond is a Royal Navy man. I recall reading that it was Lindy Hemming, costume designer for Goldeneye, who chose an Omega to be worn by Brosnan because she remembered seeing a Seamaster on the wrist of a relative who had been in the Royal Navy. That decision led to the partnership between Omega and the Bond franchise that continues to this day. As savvy as Rolex's marketing has been, when it comes to the Bond franchise Omega one upped Rolex at its own game under the leadership of Jean-Claude Biver.
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As a Greek and OMEGA being a Greek word (the last letter of the Greek alphabet "Ω") i can confirm it is "Oh-Mega". Practically it means the Mega O. The other O in the alphabet ("Ο") is called Omicron (Oh-Micron) which means the small O. Micron means small in Greek. So the Greek has a Mega O and a Small O. Ω and Ο.

Omicron was also given as a name to the latest covid variant. All variants are based on Greek letters (Like Delta "Δ") which is the fourth letter of the Greek alphabet. Hope we dont have an Omega variant.

Written exactly as my father would have said it. Great explanation
 
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Written exactly as my father would have said it. Great explanation

Though, for the Swiss company, “Omega” is both a loanword (the speakers of one language borrowing a word from another language) and a proper noun; so it may not be that Greek pronunciation of the Greek letter is instructive to how the Swiss corporation pronounces its own name.

While not a perfect analogy, it reminds me of the Moët brand of French champagne; in French that word would be pronounced with a silent “t,” but the actual pronunciation of the brand is with a hard “t” (because it’s founder was Dutch with the last name Moët pronounced as the Dutch do).

In any event, I suspect that as a practical matter I pronounce “IKEA” correctly - whatever that means - even though it would be pronounced with a Swedish accent: 'ee-kay-uh'.
 
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Pronouncing "Vincent Van Gogh"? Let's not even go there.

I went there - very interesting (and hard for an American to pronounce)
 
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Yieah,no. The actor wears a Speedmaster powered by 861 or 1861.


Damn, you’re right - good catch!

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The movie may have been in the production phase and filming before the 3861 was available.
 
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Do you mind pointing out what makes that obvious? I’m surely just not so familiar with these but nothing from the photo shared just above is obvious to me. Thanks
 
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The movie may have been in the production phase and filming before the 3861 was available.

Which you’ld hope would mean they put a period instead of a comma!
 
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The giveaways that I would expect would be stepped dial and DON, neither of which appear to be discernible to me. I must be missing something
 
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The 1861 has a flat counter weight on the Chrono hand and the 3861has tear shape end.
 
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The giveaways that I would expect would be stepped dial and DON, neither of which appear to be discernible to me. I must be missing something

If you zoom in, you *can* just see the DON

but also and in addition to the chrono minute hand counter-weight noted above, are the dial’s “seconds” indices: 4 in the photo, vs 3 in the new watch