Speedmaster Confusion: Case no vs Movement no

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Commerx

·Jan 2, 2023

Hoping a member can shed some light or clarify for me The inside of my omega speedmaster case is stamped ST105.003-65 and the movement serial no is 22083356 which based on reading forum threads and Speedmaster 101 puts the dating of the watch as 1964 I think. I am probably missing something so appreciate thoughts in advance Sorry about the photos. Best I have

 

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Davidt

·Jan 2, 2023

That does seem slightly early for a -65.

Can you upload some photos, of the movement and caseback but also on the front of the case and lugs.

 

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padders

·Jan 2, 2023·Oooo subtitles!

As above, ILMS suggests May 1965 for that serial which is too early for the model. Maybe you have misread a digit or transposed some, 22m is OK for a -65 but not that low a number. The earliest seem to start at 22.82m and those in fact date to early 1966. My own is on 22.827m and is extracted to April '66.

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perenowell

·Jan 2, 2023

Hi there, as we discussed, i agree with my friends here. The serial seems a bit too early for a-65.

The pictures of your watch made me think at the first place that you had a -63 or -64 (because of the no bevel -if i am not mistaking about the 63). And then the serial known, it suggests a -64.

i hope you don’t mind i upload here your pictures. Cheers.

 

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Davidt

·Jan 2, 2023

It’s hard to tell from those pictures you may have a -64 with a replaced caseback.
The reason I asked for a picture of the lugs is because the —64 and -65 have slightly different lug profiles. The former with no facet and the latter with.

 

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padders

·Jan 2, 2023·Oooo subtitles!

Yep. Those don't look like -65 lugs, no bevel.

 

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·Jan 3, 2023

Apologize. I had confirmed previously the lugs are wrong. Believed they were replaced somewhere I. The history of the watch pre me

 

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·Jan 3, 2023

No worries on the upload of the photos. Thanks for the replies

 

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·Jan 3, 2023

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No worries on the upload of the photos. Thanks for the replies

 

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Davidt

·Jan 3, 2023

C Commerx

Apologize. I had confirmed previously the lugs are wrong. Believed they were replaced somewhere I. The history of the watch pre me

So if the lugs/case is wrong for a 65 and the movement is wrong for a 65, maybe your watch isn’t a 65.

Frol what I can see the most obvious answer is you have a -64 with a replaced case back.

 

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·Jan 4, 2023

I was typing and occupied when i responded. The pushers crown and hands are wrong several folk have identified that. With the inputs I will guess its a 64 and leave it at that with the wrong case back