Speedmaster cal. 321 of today

malilis · Mar 13, 2023

Morning !
This Speedmaster model Omega 321, 39,7mm, 16,700.€ is attractive because of the movement and the size (but not because of the price !)
I wonder if the movement 321 today has evolved compared to the historic 321 of the sixties ?
Is it worth the difference with the normal Speedmaster 42mm Moonwatch, cal 3861 co-axial .. 7,500.€ ...more than. double thus ..? Or is it only a matter of intellectual and aesthetical interest .. no technical interest ..
Your opinion ?
Have a nice day !

lucian23 · Mar 13, 2023

At this price for me show "no interest" ..

alexsofluffy · Mar 13, 2023

Watches like this make me realize what an irrational hobby watch collecting can be sometimes.

3861 is technically the more modern and superior movement, and the new 321 isn't even exactly the same as the original (has gold finishing now instead of copper on some areas). So buy the 321 if you like the history behind the watches it is paying homage to. Otherwise, you're still getting a great watch with the 3861.

Archer · Mar 13, 2023

malilis
I wonder if the movement 321 today has evolved compared to the historic 321 of the sixties ?

Nope. Not in any meaningful technical sense.

SC1 · Mar 13, 2023

Archer
Nope. Not in any meaningful technical sense.

And with that, every modern 321 Ed White "hand-assembled" Speedmaster owner just shat themselves.

Al bringing a Truth Casserole to the Exclusivity Potluck dinner.

Evitzee · Mar 13, 2023

malilis
Morning !
This Speedmaster model Omega 321, 39,7mm, 16,700.€ is attractive because of the movement and the size (but not because of the price !)
I wonder if the movement 321 today has evolved compared to the historic 321 of the sixties ?
Is it worth the difference with the normal Speedmaster 42mm Moonwatch, cal 3861 co-axial .. 7,500.€ ...more than. double thus ..? Or is it only a matter of intellectual and aesthetical interest .. no technical interest ..
Your opinion ?
Have a nice day !

There are various threads discussing pros and cons (mostly grumbling about price and availability) on the reintroduced Ed White 321. Whether it is worth the price difference to you depends on whether you understand or care about the whole 321 package or not (aesthetics and history). Some do, some don't. If you just want a Speedmaster in a similar case size pick up a pre-owned FOIS with the 1861 movement and be happy.

Breaking News: The New Steel Speedmaster With Caliber 321 “Ed White” | Omega Forums

Speedmaster Caliber 321 "Ed White" - A Pictorial Review | Omega Forums

Hot Takes: Speedmaster Moonwatch 321 “Ed White”/“Cernan” in Stainless Steel (2020) Review | Omega Forums

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And with that, every modern 321 Ed White "hand-assembled" Speedmaster owner just shat themselves.

Al bringing a Truth Casserole to the Exclusivity Potluck dinner.

Owners of the Ed White 321 know there is no real technical update to the 321 movement, that was by design by Omega and appreciated by the buyers. It does have a longer mainspring allowing a +60 hour power reserve, but that's about it. Owners of this watch didn't buy it for its technical prowess or the 'hand assembled' gimmick, no one shat themselves.

SC1 · Mar 13, 2023

Evitzee
There are various threads discussing pros and cons (mostly grumbling about price and availability) on the reintroduced Ed White 321. Whether it is worth the price difference to you depends on whether you understand or care about the whole 321 package or not (aesthetics and history). Some do, some don't. If you just want a Speedmaster in a similar case size pick up a pre-owned FOIS with the 1861 movement and be happy.

Breaking News: The New Steel Speedmaster With Caliber 321 “Ed White” | Omega Forums

Speedmaster Caliber 321 "Ed White" - A Pictorial Review | Omega Forums

Hot Takes: Speedmaster Moonwatch 321 “Ed White”/“Cernan” in Stainless Steel (2020) Review | Omega Forums

Owners of the Ed White 321 know there is no real technical update to the 321 movement, that was by design by Omega and appreciated by the buyers. It does have a longer mainspring allowing a +60 hour power reserve, but that's about it. Owners of this watch didn't buy it for its technical prowess or the 'hand assembled' gimmick, no one shat themselves.

I was kidding... but, how do you know no one shat themselves?

Evitzee · Mar 13, 2023

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I was kidding... but, how do you know no one shat themselves?

Because those who constantly shit themselves here on a daily basis would have reported back on their bowel failures if it was due to the 321.

SC1 · Mar 13, 2023

Evitzee
Because those who constantly shit themselves here on a daily basis would have reported back on their bowel failures if it was due to the 321.

What happens in the bowl stays in the bowl.

Evitzee · Mar 13, 2023

SC1
What happens in the bowl stays in the bowl.

That's the goal.

SC1 · Mar 13, 2023

Evitzee
That's the goal.

Umm, that's the bowl.

malilis · Mar 14, 2023

Thank you all for your interesting (and funny) answers !

Omegafanman · Mar 14, 2023

Technical differences marking values?…
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Omegafanman · Mar 14, 2023

malilis
Thank you all for your interesting (and funny) answers !

Another way of looking at it is what would you pay for a vintage 105.003 in perfect condition with box and papers?…
Which still won’t hack and if kept original won’t be guaranteed for water resistance.

Speedmaster cal. 321 of today

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