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Speedmaster 2998-1?

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Just to reiterate what everyone has already said, DONT clean it. I am sure your inbox will be inundated with offers. You have a very sought after watch and have already said you have no intention of keeping it. So take your time before deciding what the final outcome is.

Personally I would take stock and seek advice as to where you will sell it. Specialist auction house would be my opinion.

Got to agree with @Davidt as to value and agree in right hands it should go even more.

Just a shame you not in UK
 
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What a lovely piece ! Any better pictures with more light to see that subtle chocolate dial ? 😁
 
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Omega - they are in Biel, Switzerland. They produce a Certificate of Authenticity. The cost, IMO, and experience is well worth it if the seller wants to maximise the return from the sale of the watch.
If you mean getting an 'Extract from the Archives', this was suspended/discontinued in 2023. Unless you mean a different service?
 
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Sorry for your loss!
We could point you to an auction house if you let us know where the watch is?
And skip the part regarding authenticity, the ones looking for this reference know what they are doing!



Base 1000....yummie!!!
😁
 
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The watch is in Finland and there is no intention to do anything to the watch. It sits in its box and I gather some more information ( I suppose the back needs to be opened to verify serial and model) and when estate decides wether they are going to sell it or send to auction. They don't need every last available penny from it. Estate wants to "get rid of it" and get okay price from it since no one has very deep connection to it. I want to thank you everyone commenting and given advice so far.
 
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The watch is in Finland and there is no intention to do anything to the watch. It sits in its box and I gather some more information ( I suppose the back needs to be opened to verify serial and model) and when estate decides wether they are going to sell it or send to auction. They don't need every last available penny from it. Estate wants to "get rid of it" and get okay price from it since no one has very deep connection to it. I want to thank you everyone commenting and given advice so far.
Yes … having a watchmaker open the back to verify/photo SN and Case back markings, dust cover, movement condition is a good idea. Do not attempt this yourself.
 
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Estate wants to "get rid of it" and get okay price from it since no one has very deep connection to it.

That won't be hard to get rid of and get what might seem like a lot money. But there's a huge range in what it could sell for. Even at the best auction houses, it can be a lucky or unlucky day. Some watches that don't seem nice sell very high while others that are fantastic don't do well.

It's not easy selling. Your best results will require patience and effort. It might be 6 months before it can get to an auction and months more to get paid.

There are a few guys in Sweden who would likely buy it from the estate now and everyone would be happy.
 
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Alarm bells ringing.
My alarm went off at "chocolate"
 
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That won't be hard to get rid of and get what might seem like a lot money. But there's a huge range in what it could sell for. Even at the best auction houses, it can be a lucky or unlucky day. Some watches that don't seem nice sell very high while others that are fantastic don't do well.

It's not easy selling. Your best results will require patience and effort. It might be 6 months before it can get to an auction and months more to get paid.

There are a few guys in Sweden who would likely buy it from the estate now and everyone would be happy.
Indeed. Lots of pitfalls in selling a watch like this yourself. You will attract both serious buyers and scammers of all stripes. That’s why, if the family doesn’t really care to put in the time, auction is the best way to go.
 
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Don’t touch it. I bet dollars to donuts it’s the corresponding watch to the paper and the risk/return of opening it now is not worth it.

It’s a very special watch. £30k is probably around the right number today - that said there will be expenses and hassle.

An auction house might take it on a reserve of 15-18k and you might get bids of £30k, but remember they will charge you 6-10% and the buyer will pay 25%

Seems to me, that you need a probate value to split among the beneficiaries. Probate values to me, is a price that you could get quickly and safely right now. You are going to have to check your local tax liabilities too. I think the fair market value for a probate split will be around £20,000 - 25,000.

To throw the cat into the pigeons I will say this. If I owned it I would not sell it for £30,000 as it is a very rare and special example. However the market , while recovering, is still uncertain at this level. My fair probate value might seem too low in 24 months time
 
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My fiancees mother passed away couple weeks ago and fiancee and her sisters are going through all the stuff and they found this watch. Watch belonged to my fiancees grandfather and was used as a normal watch so it is not in mint condition but doesn't seem to be fiddled and works just fine as far as I can say.

I spent couple days searching information about the watch and I'm wondering if the watch is 2998-1 and what it might be worth. Estate has no intention to keep the watch so they are going to sell it eventually and I'm just looking information about the watch. Watch has box and papers with movement serial number. Didn't open the case to be sure but all the clues indicates that it is 2998-1.

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Terveiset toiselta 2998-1 omistajalta, ja myös suomi kellona aikoinaan myyty.

You have a great heirloom, you could get an estimate (if you want to sell it in Finland) from Bukowskis. And if you want an evaluation and service evaluation / authentication of parts contact Vesa at Longitudi in Helsinki.

I could help you out as well with observations, if you send me a PM.

J
 
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The watch is in Finland and there is no intention to do anything to the watch. It sits in its box and I gather some more information ( I suppose the back needs to be opened to verify serial and model) and when estate decides wether they are going to sell it or send to auction. They don't need every last available penny from it. Estate wants to "get rid of it" and get okay price from it since no one has very deep connection to it. I want to thank you everyone commenting and given advice so far.
Heippa, Ruotsista!

You could contact Bukowskis, they are very talented with watches!
They have two big watch auctions a year, and the curators are very talented.

https://www.bukowskis.com/fi
 
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Just looked at the photos again. It really is a 😍 watch.
 
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Alarm bells ringing.

Some mixed reactions to your comment, but I had the exact same reaction to that post.
 
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There is a slight hint of chocolate but very faint. I have to get better phone or camera to get better pictures later on since my potato can't take better pictures. Tried my best with what I got.

Your caseback shot is incredibly clean and crisp, your phone seems to be up to the task- most modern phones really take good pictures. If you want a fair and accurate valuation, taking even just a handful of decent dial shots in natural lighting should be quick and easy.

I'm not a buyer for this watch, but what I can see of it looks awesome, and I'd personally love to see more.
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Just to be clear - if I am bidding on a watch like this, I will be more exited with the untouched watch than if it has been serviced.

It is very unlikely a knowledgeable collector will pay more as a result of it being serviced.

In fact the reverse is more likely, you will get less
 
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I somehow lost my interest in Speedmasters when I sold my ed white in 2019/2020 so I’m not perfectly sure what the year would be. But this should be early 60ies right?

This writing does not look like 60ies handwriting. It also looks like a bic or somekind of rollerpen?

Don’t know when these pens where common but I think in the 60ies other handwriting was used as well as other pens.

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I somehow lost my interest in Speedmasters when I sold my ed white in 2019/2020 so I’m not perfectly sure what the year would be. But this should be early 60ies right?

This writing does not look like 60ies handwriting. It also looks like a bic or somekind of rollerpen?

Don’t know when these pens where common but I think in the 60ies other handwriting was used as well as other pens.

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The bic cristal ballpoint apparently became pretty popular in the 60s. I wasn't around then, but I remember my Grandad using them religiously and there were hundreds of them in Old boxes in his home after he passed away. They were tucked in with paperwork going back to the '60s and 70s.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bic_Cristal

Throughout the 1950s and 1960s, the Bic Cristal's writing tip and ergonomic design helped shift the worldwide market for pens from fountain pens to ballpoints.


I can't guarantee it but it wouldn't surprise me if that writing came from a pen not dissimilar from the one above.

Edit: that wiki article was a super interesting read. The tiny ball in the end of the pen was apparently possible due to Swiss Manufacturing technology!
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This writing does not look like 60ies handwriting.
What does 1960s handwriting look like?

emilio emilio
It also looks like a bic or somekind of rollerpen?
I was using a biro in the 1960s, it wasn't a "state of the art" pen at the time.
 
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