Hi everyone

Although I've been collecting Omegas for a while, I'm new to the Forum. I've posted some of my collection below - mostly inhered from my father but I've added to it over the years. Will post a photo of Connies and Devilles when I can get a display box to put them in. I try to wear most of them apart from a couple of the oddities, and the POs have been scuba diving... The gaps are watches that are off being serviced.






My question is about a Speedmaster 145.022-69, straight text, it has an 861 movement and 28m serial nos. The dial however is missing the "Professional", but it is a stepped dial, looks old, has a raised metal logo and doesn't look like a service dial. The omega logo is on the hesalite. So:
1, Is it worth keeping the dial, i.e. could it be "genuine" but a fit afterwards of an older dial, or should I try and find a correct vintage dial?
2. Also, any idea what the bracelet is? The clasp says 1036/12 but I assume it's a refit as Google says that 1036/12 is grains of rice Connie bracelet...





Thanks in advance!

 

Well you've got a dial from a 105.003 or later 2998, a movement from perhaps a 145.022-68 (though I suspect an Extract will say it's from a Seamaster...) and a caseback from a 1971 or so 145.022-69. I believe this watch is a put-together from some years back.

The good news is that the dial has quite a bit of value, though I imagine the dial feet have been chopped off. The bracelet looks like a 1039, which also has value but not as much as it would with a proper clasp and 516 end links.

I would ask a watchmaker to examine the dial feet, but I'm sorry to say I wouldn't spend money trying to make this watch right.

 

Beautiful collection btw

 

105.003 dial it has narrow spaced t's. I'm going to go out on a limb and say those hands went with that dial too. Otherwise as noted above.

Movement, does not fall in range for a straight writing.

About the dial feet... the 321 movement has the same basic dial feet as the 861, but they are longer and thicker. To get a 321 dial on an 861 movement you need to trim those feet. As far as I know you cannot easily lengthen those feet again to make it fit on an 321. https://omegaforums.net/threads/dial-difference-between-145-012-and-145-022.6135/page-2#post-72595

 

Now that, is an impressive collection!

 

Search eBay for sold items.

You will be shocked what a 321 hand set sold for last week.

I also think a similar dial sold last week as well.

I would agree, if it's not a Speedmaster movement might be best parting this out.

 

Thank you - as I feared but better to find out now than later...Makes me glad I joined, as I'm looking to buy a Straight Text, an Ed White, and one day when I've sold a kidney, a CK2998...

 

Thanks - it'll be better once I have a proper box for the Connies and other dress watches rather than the shoe boxes they are in now..

 

Just echo above comments about it's hard to make it right from a bunch of parts, but some parts if not damaged could fetch quite a bit.

Also, just in case you haven't known already, your 2 Seamaster 300s don't look right and don't really belong to the otherwise nice collection.

 

I just did - it's shocking! I agree with all the advice, I'm not really interested in a put together watch, so I'll keep looking for an authentic one (drop me a line if you have a proper Straight Text you can be parted from!)

 

And the bracelet is an 1175 I think.

 

Shame. Nice dial.

And nice collection!

 

Certainly a mish mash of parts.

The dials looks nice though. Parting out just the dial would go a long way towards a straight writing -69.

 

Buyer for the dial right here.

 

What a lovely collection of watches. It's a pleasure to view them.

 

Great collection!

 

Amazing collection you have there!

The 28M its too low for a Straigth writing IMO, mine is 32M, the dial is not from that model as well.

Regards,

 

And we don't care about display boxes
Just show us the Connies

 

You can perhaps do a WTT on OF for a nice looking 861 dial and get some extra cash. I'd try to hunt for the case back later.. Some people here want that dial

 

Ok - here you go -

The Connie in the middle was my graduation present from my dad, and what got me started on collecting them, I also inherited the two black dial Pie Pans from him. I do love the Connjes up to the first Manhattan, after that they become a bit too dictator-princess-bling for my tastes...The Deville 930 in the top right is also a favourite because of the oddity of the date window at 9, and the Seamster Compressor which I think is hugely underrated...



At some point when funds allow i'd like to add to my collection - a Bullhead, Ed White, a 105.012, and few white faced Connies (2782/354, 2943/504, 14381/551. If I ever manage to sell a kidney and a couple of the kids, I'll also add a CK2998, a CK2914 and a Grand Luxe with the solid gold brick bracelet...