Speedmaster 105.002 help with assessment.

Patrik83 · Nov 11, 2021

Hi Guys,

Usually I have no issue validating a vintage Speedmaster. However, this time I have a hard time validating if it a good deal or not.

Obviously it has problems:
- Wrong bezel for the reference.
- Heavily polished case and case back
- Case tube for crown stem is dented.
- Hands have been repainted.
- Different colors of parts in movement?

And what about the dial lume? I suspect it is relumed as they march so well with the hands and the hands have clearly been repainted at some point.

Price asked is 8 900 USD

Is it worth the price? Are the indexes relumed? What do you think about the case stem tube? The color of the movment? Something else I have missed?

Much appreciated, thank you all.

gemini4 · Nov 11, 2021

I believe the baton hands are replacements for original alpha hands.

stonestone · Nov 11, 2021

gemini4
I believe the baton hands are replacements for original alpha hands.

Yes, I thought this model is basically a late 2998 with a different numbering.

Seaborg · Nov 11, 2021

I would say :

Relumed dial.
Over polished case (the double bezel is a single bevel now 🤦).
Service bezel.
Wrong/service hands.
Suspect movement (at least butchered spacer ring).

The question is more "are you confortable with that price ?". It's a question we can't answer for you.

jaegodylan · Nov 11, 2021

Seaborg
I would say :

Relumed dial.
Over polished case (the double bezel is a single bevel now 🤦).
Service bezel.
Wrong/service hands.
Suspect movement (at least butchered spacer ring).

The question is more "are you confortable with that price ?". It's a question we can't answer for you.

There are baton hands on 105.002-62... and alpha hands. Splits right down the middle.

Patrik83 · Nov 11, 2021

gemini4
I believe the baton hands are replacements for original alpha hands.

Ah did not think of that. It is quite early in the 105.002 area so makes sense. Thanks

Seaborg
I would say :
Relumed dial.
Over polished case (the double bezel is a single bevel now 🤦).
Service bezel.
Wrong/service hands.
Suspect movement (at least butchered spacer ring).

The question is more "are you comfortable with that price ?". It's a question we can't answer for you.

Well posting this is all about figuring this out 😉 The relume and the hands is my biggest concern. Thanks for taking your time.

stonestone
Yes, I thought this model is basically a late 2998 with a different numbering.

The ref 105.002 have both alpha and baton hands, however this is early in the series and thus would most likely have the alpha hands.

timoss · Nov 11, 2021

I'm no expert but the dial looks relumed to me.

stonestone · Nov 11, 2021

Patrik83
The ref 105.002 have both alpha and baton hands, however this is early in the series and thus would most likely have the alpha hands.

Thanks, I had forgotten this. Anyway, always thought it was the alpha hands that made this model attractive.

watchyouwant · Nov 11, 2021

Dial and hands are re- lumed

jaegodylan · Nov 11, 2021

Heres my 105.002-62 with baton hands.

Speedmaster 105.002 help with assessment.

Patrik83

gemini4

stonestone

Seaborg

jaegodylan

Patrik83

timoss

stonestone

watchyouwant

jaegodylan

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