Speed master 145.012 67 cal 321

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Ok I found a good watchmaker that gave me the same suggestion and making a treatment to the case to prevent future rust he seems legit
You should take it to a watchmaker who you know is legit, not to one that only "Seems legit".
You should search for a watchmaker/shop that has experience servicing the Cal. 321 movements and have the ability to source parts if needed.
Absolutely do not have the case polished, and first inquire what type of "Treatment" he is planing for the case before giving the go-ahead to do it...

Good luck!
 
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https://instagram.com/relojoariagirao?igshid=1s56021jnt1c6
https://instagram.com/relojoariagirao?igshid=1s56021jnt1c6

Ok this is the watchmaker instagram and I found out a friend of mine that as a big collection of vintage watches says the only reason he keeps collecting is because of this watchmaker so I think I am in good hands

You should take it to a watchmaker who you know is legit, not to one that only "Seems legit".
You should search for a watchmaker/shop that has experience servicing the Cal. 321 movements and have the ability to source parts if needed.
Absolutely do not have the case polished, and first inquire what type of "Treatment" he is planing for the case before giving the go-ahead to do it...

Good luck!
 
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Ok, so I have the feedback from that watchmaker I have discovered and some new pics there’s some humidity damage but all fixable maintaining the all the original parts, he’s gonna fix the screws too since when he opened it he saw that the previous watchmakers did a terrible job and damaged some screws and a revision he’s gonna polish the glass only. I’ll post updates when I receive it fixed

thank you
 
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Ok so the watch came back from the watchmaker i have put the watch just in time as it was getting rust inside as u will see in the picture. He didn’t change no original part and maintained everything he could and treated it for fungus and water infiltration here’s the results. Thank u for the tips and from keeping me away from omega !!!

 
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Nice job!! Looks amazing now!! Enjoy it for many years! parabens!
 
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It appears rust and they say water will go in

No vintage watch should touch water....
 
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No vintage watch should touch water....

Nonsense. If the watch is properly sealed, it can touch water...
 
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Nonsense. If the watch is properly sealed, it can touch water...

Sometimes you decide to not do things because of what you know, but also(and perhaps more frequently) because of what you don't know.

You can't guarantee a 50yr old watch to be sealed except on the day it was tested. Too many other variables at play from those 50yrs of life.
 
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Sometimes you decide to not do things because of what you know, but also(and perhaps more frequently) because of what you don't know.

People keep conflating what they would personally decide to do, with actual capabilities of a watch...

You can't guarantee a 50yr old watch to be sealed except on the day it was tested. Too many other variables at play from those 50yrs of life.

Yet Omega does this every day...
 
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Looks like you made a good decision to use this watch maker, nice Instagram page . Good result for your watch
 
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People keep conflating what they would personally decide to do, with actual capabilities of a watch...

Yet Omega does this every day...

So we should also just keep using the Apollo rockets to go to outer space.

They could do it back then, right? They should be able to do it today too...just change the seals.

Saying what you CAN do is very different from what one SHOULD do.

One should not put a vintage watch under water. Its just prudent.
 
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So we should also just keep using the Apollo rockets to go to outer space.

So nothing that is 50 years old should be used as it was originally intended then? I have a friend who races E-Types, so I guess in your view he (and the thousands of others who do the same with vintage cars) shouldn't be doing that. You had better call the vintage items "rules police" on these guys.

Saying what you CAN do is very different from what one SHOULD do.

Yes, you are repeating exactly what I said above. It CAN touch water. If it SHOULD is up to the individual to decide. It's not up to you to impose rules on how vintage watches should be worn...

Again, Omega services vintage watches all the time and warranties them for water resistance. Contrary to your very odd analogy, this isn't rocket science.
 
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So nothing that is 50 years old should be used as it was originally intended then? I have a friend who races E-Types, so I guess in your view he (and the thousands of others who do the same with vintage cars) shouldn't be doing that. You had better call the vintage items "rules police" on these guys.



Yes, you are repeating exactly what I said above. It CAN touch water. If it SHOULD is up to the individual to decide. It's not up to you to impose rules on how vintage watches should be worn...

Again, Omega services vintage watches all the time and warranties them for water resistance. Contrary to your very odd analogy, this isn't rocket science.

Yeah, that's what I'm doing, imposing rules. It's not my opinion at all.🤨
 
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Yeah, that's what I'm doing, imposing rules. It's not my opinion at all.🤨

No vintage watch should touch water....

Yeah...just an opinion...
 
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Yeah...just an opinion...

Well if I could impose rules, one would be Archer shouldn't be pedantic. But we all know that won't happen.::stirthepot::
 
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Well if I could impose rules, one would be Archer shouldn't be pedantic. But we all know that won't happen.::stirthepot::

You are correct, you won't get the opportunity to impose rules, so it won't happen.
 
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and back to the original topic ::stirthepot::

The watch looks fantastic looks to me like a good balance between cleaning it up and making it look newly maintained and keeping the originality of the watch.
 
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Watch looks great!

Ah the old rate resistant argument... I think both are right.
Yes it should work as it should if properly maintained.
Yes I would consider a serviced vintage Speedmaster able to take contact with water in everyday wearing.
No I wouldn't immerse or swim wearing a vintage Speedmaster. It probably would be okay but that's just an unacceptable risk to me
Would I immerse or swim wearing a vintage (expensive) dive watch? Probably not but that would be personal choice although I can see how others would want something to work as intended.
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