Speed master 145.012 67 cal 321

Funkyou · Jan 2, 2020

Hello everyone I’m goncalo from Portugal I would like some help If possible.

I have a omega speedmaster professional that was from my grandfather cal 321 ref 145.012 serial 25xxxx the problem is that the case Is in bad shape and when I took it to the representative of omega here they said they have to send it to the factory and it would came as new, my question is should I send it to the factory to fix? Or should I look for a original case from that time to swap? Will it loose value sending it to the factory to fix everything? It has in bad shape?

thank you in advance

X350 XJR · Jan 2, 2020

Do not send it to Omega, they will ruin it.

Looks lovely, just needs a bit of a sympathetic clean up, do not let anyone try to make it look like new this will kill the value.

Davidt · Jan 2, 2020

Case looks fine to me. A gentle clean + service and you’re golden.

Pilot85 · Jan 2, 2020

Just for my info.

Is that the correct bezel and bracelet for this watch? 🙄🙄🙄

mac_omega · Jan 2, 2020

Pilot85
Just for my info.

Is that the correct bezel and bracelet for this watch? 🙄🙄🙄

No!

Funkyou · Jan 2, 2020

mac_omega
No!

The bracelet isn’t?

Dan S · Jan 2, 2020

Leave it alone. The case is over 50 years old, it's ok to have some scratches.

Funkyou · Jan 2, 2020

Dan S
Leave it alone. The case is over 50 years old, it's ok to have some scratches.

It appears rust and they say water will go in

Dan S · Jan 2, 2020

Funkyou
It appears rust and they say water will go in

Have the watch serviced by an experience independent watchmaker who will clean everything up, lubricate and adjust the movement, and replace all the seals.

Davidt · Jan 2, 2020

Funkyou
It appears rust and they say water will go in

Maybe some slight surface pitting but doesn't look like anything major.

Speedmasters arent hugely water resistant at the best of times and neither are vintage watches in general.

jay64 · Jan 2, 2020

The crystal needs polishing that's it, there's nothing else wrong with this Speedmaster.

Pilot85 · Jan 2, 2020

Funkyou
The bracelet isn’t?

the bracelet 1171/1 is from the 1980's

Bezel im not sure if it should be a DON...

Matth84 · Jan 2, 2020

Congrats, that’s a nice watch. Just bring it to a local watchmaker for a service, and the results will be amazing.

Bracelet is imo the later 1171/1 one (instead of the 1171), bezel is also replaced.

Matth

SpikiSpikester · Jan 2, 2020

Pilot85
the bracelet 1171/1 is from the 1980's

Bezel im not sure if it should be a DON...

bezel should have a dot over the 90 - which is a big deal for people collecting these. It was probably replaced during a service earlier in the watches life. As it's a family watch, that shouldn't be a big deal for you though.

Dgercp · Jan 2, 2020

Honestly that case looks unpolished and really nice. Most likely the pitting is superficial but a decent watchmaker can tell you if they are deeper holes that you need to worry about. The movement looks nice and rust free.
As others have said bezel wrong but a DON can be found for sure.

Denarius · Jan 2, 2020

It looks a nice solid watch, yes it should have a DON bezel but that’s what happens at official services, key parts are lost for service replacements.
Research well who you want to service this watch, someone with knowledge on vintage expensive watches, any marks on the dial caused by a bad service will hurt the value.
You will also wants to keep the hands in original condition, that spear point chrono hand is worth a pretty penny on its own.
Good luck..

Funkyou · Jan 3, 2020

Denarius
It looks a nice solid watch, yes it should have a DON bezel but that’s what happens at official services, key parts are lost for service replacements.
Research well who you want to service this watch, someone with knowledge on vintage expensive watches, any marks on the dial caused by a bad service will hurt the value.
You will also wants to keep the hands in original condition, that spear point chrono hand is worth a pretty penny on its own.
Good luck..

Ok I found a good watchmaker that gave me the same suggestion and making a treatment to the case to prevent future rust he seems legit and as a lot of posted jobs on vintage watches, he says he will keeps the watch with the original parts thank you so much !

Screwbacks · Jan 3, 2020

those are natural wear and tear on the case from half a century of time telling job. pretty nice metal patina. take care of it as suggested.

Denarius · Jan 3, 2020

Funkyou
Ok I found a good watchmaker that gave me the same suggestion and making a treatment to the case to prevent future rust he seems legit and as a lot of posted jobs on vintage watches, he says he will keeps the watch with the original parts thank you so much !

No problem, those marks you can see on the case will not be rust, it’s a stainless steel case so I’m not sure what this treatment is your watchmaker is talking about? Hope it all goes okay and post up some pictures when finished.

Luca.P · Jan 3, 2020

I think the watch looks great, the wear shows that it has some history behind it. If you want to get the case fixed in a way that will not destroy its charm or "kill its value", there is a great company based in Rome called "Il Menzerna" and they do all kind of case restorations. Here is the link to their Facebook page: https://de-de.facebook.com/pg/IL-Menzerna-159210764768786/photos/

Good luck and enjoy your watch!

Luca

Speed master 145.012 67 cal 321

Funkyou

X350 XJR

Davidt

Pilot85

mac_omega

Funkyou

Dan S

Funkyou

Dan S

Davidt

jay64

Pilot85

Matth84

SpikiSpikester

Dgercp

Denarius

Funkyou

Screwbacks

Denarius

Luca.P

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