Source for Chrono parts?

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Can anyone suggest a source for old pocket watch parts please? My watch repairer just said this part would be for him impossible to get. He says that this movement ìs of such extraordinary high quality that he said no one would have it. He described it as being Patek Philippe like!
It is a large silver pocket watch. I couldn't argue with him as I have never tried to get a 1910s Omega chrono watch part before.

 
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Can anyone suggest a source for old pocket watch parts please? My watch repairer just said this part would be for him impossible to get. He says that this movement ìs of such extraordinary high quality that he said no one would have it. He described it as being Patek Philippe like!
It is a large silver pocket watch. I couldn't argue with him as I have never tried to get a 1910s Omega chrono watch part before.

 
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eBay and patience.


The old guys could make any needed part. I think this changed in the late 1930s when there was more globalization and industrial standardization.

That said, since the 18th century there were places what specialized in parts. By the 19th century America had this down to a science (Statistics.) Subcontractors made the common stuff like springs, pinions and gears. Most of these followed standard scaling and tooth counts.

I have an old repeater what my mentor told me to go through the back room and find a similar gear set. I could never match it. So now I have trays of parts to sort through as I started buying stuff by the job lot. The serious folk do a lot of leg works, tracking down retired watchmakers estate sales and charity shops. This requires a lot of leg work and travel. Also helps to be an early riser and somewhat immune to dead ends and disappointment.

I probably should get that old box of repeater parts out and see if there is something close on the bay. I tried making a new pinion for it as it had been in a fire, and was still wet when I got it. These things could also be school projects, although I think such follow standard textbook patterns. I also fell into the trap of wanting to fix that watch before I worked on others. So I probably wasted 18 years not doing much with watchmaking. Other than to fantasize about it.

20 some years back (seems more like 30) I played around with CAD/CAM to make models of the old watches. Manufacturing methodologies lend themselves to mass production. Software goes obsolete and becomes more and more highly specialized and proprietary. Making one off parts is simply not productive. Even if it remains an interesting proposition.

I got equipment to grind file and lap out parts. Would be easier to make a watch from scratch (or a dozen) than to replicate a missing part for a watch made a century or more. Most of this material has made it's way into steampunk art projects. Sold by the gram or the the pound.


Somewhere I have an omega pocket watch what needs at least an escape wheel. Probably could find such in a dive down a rabbit hole. Ranfft has a decent parametric search, so one can determine the plate layout. That will give a good idea for the region where the watch was made.

There really is no way to search through 230 or more years worth of materials which have been accumulated by many people over the centuries. Some in old warehouses others in closets and drawers. Most of this is not worth the time. Billions of watches have been made, with millions more made each year.

One either has the passion for the hunt or one does not.
 
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This look likes the same movement and missing part

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Hello

This looks like a 19 lignes chronograph movement.
See these links.
https://www.timeline.watch/watch/1900-omega-first-pocket-chronograph-ref-ch-533-19/
http://www.pocketwatch.ch/komega.htm

search the internet for "Omega 19 chro" for a parts movement. or omega pocket watch chronograph (but omega has made other pocket watch chronograph calibres).

Urdelar has one that is not so cheap: https://urdelar.se/products/omega-19chro-lb

This one is cheap https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/22576859...YeVaTOayoLPm2O2IpzUlzj1w==|tkp:Bk9SR-7Dlf_UYg

Please measure the diameter to see if it really is 19 lignes.
Maybe send us more pictures of the movement.
You have to decide if it is worth it. What about the condition of the dial and case? History of the watch (family heirdom).

Good luck hunting!
 
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You need a coupling clutch spring...
 
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The old guys could make any needed part.

One either has the passion for the hunt or one does not.

Great post and tremendously useful. Especially the first three words.

It suggests what I suspected but didn't know: That this isnt an Omega calibre it is a calibre! Now if I can identify it, I can measure the size and start looking for this part.

I also wondered but didn't know that I could realistically look for such a part on ebay. But you suggest that these obscure chrono parts do crop up occasionally. Now all i need to do is identify whose calibre it is, (and maybe what that part is called)!

Then I can start looking.

Were it not for my repairer rhapsodising about the magnificent Patek quality, I'd just assume it is a 19 ligne CHRO.
 
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You need a coupling clutch spring...
Thanks for that! Is it specific to Omega or do you think they bought in an existing calibre as is suggested above?
 
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Why not make the part? Watchmaker used to do that ... mine does.

It wouldn't be a terribly difficult part to make...but you have to find a watchmaker who is willing, and a customer who is willing to pay.
 
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Yes I did think of that. But my repairer that had all the tools to make this died a decade ago.

Curiously enough i was speaking to one of the teachers at WOSTEP who told me a story about a star pupil there who was given a box of wheels to sort through to find something that was needed that day for some purpose or other.
He threw the box aside ând just got on with making it. He had figured that it would be quicker and èasier for him to
It wouldn't be a terribly difficult part to make...but you have to find a watchmaker who is willing, and a customer who is willing to pay.

make it rather than search through the box!
 
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BTW there is a cannibalized one on eBay Bulgaria. I have asked him ìf he would care to cannibalise it further.

There seems to have been a 7 jewel version of this movement .î would bet it isn't even particularly rare?
 
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Great post and tremendously useful. Especially the first three words.

It suggests what I suspected but didn't know: That this isnt an Omega calibre it is a calibre! Now if I can identify it, I can measure the size and start looking for this part.

I also wondered but didn't know that I could realistically look for such a part on ebay. But you suggest that these obscure chrono parts do crop up occasionally. Now all i need to do is identify whose calibre it is, (and maybe what that part is called)!

Then I can start looking.

Were it not for my repairer rhapsodising about the magnificent Patek quality, I'd just assume it is a 19 ligne CHRO.

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic.
In my opinion this IS an omega 19 ligne chronograph calibre.

You can have the part if you buy this https://www.ebay.ch/itm/22576859120...-53480-19255-0&campid=5338788128&toolid=10001
for 300 pounds.
 
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Well I did manage to get my repairer to fit the part and now it works fine.

So I am trying to figure öut exactly why he went so far out of his way to rhapsodise In such glowing terms about the quality of this particular piece. For a 1908 movement it is nice quality but I can't see what the externally apparent differences were between the five grades of 19" CHRO movement? Is it something to do with chatons on the balance staff? I can't see the jewels on the movement and the chrono part doesnt seem to be jewelled?