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sgrossma
·OMG.
Those YouTube live auctions at "wholesale prices" never did make any sense to me...
Those YouTube live auctions at "wholesale prices" never did make any sense to me...
So...what happened to the Timepiece Gentleman?
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Foo2rama
··Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can.🍿
I watched a few videos and I had the suspicion it was all wonky based on running numbers in my head. Their volume did not seem to match the spending.
I watched a few videos and I had the suspicion it was all wonky based on running numbers in my head. Their volume did not seem to match the spending.
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Dogmann
·Hi all,
When they started taking so many watches on consignment it started to look very fishy to me but one of their " customers" that they took over 30 watches from sure didn't look like the sort of person to mess with and running off with his money seems like a really bad and stupid idea. I doubt they are smart enough to be able to really hide for long if at all and they can and will be easily found by someone with the resources to find them the world really isn't that big and they may not even want their money back just satisfaction if you know what I mean.
Marc
When they started taking so many watches on consignment it started to look very fishy to me but one of their " customers" that they took over 30 watches from sure didn't look like the sort of person to mess with and running off with his money seems like a really bad and stupid idea. I doubt they are smart enough to be able to really hide for long if at all and they can and will be easily found by someone with the resources to find them the world really isn't that big and they may not even want their money back just satisfaction if you know what I mean.
Marc
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vbrad26
·I vote for the satisfaction option lol.
Thieves are the scum of the earth. Well, one of many. But really up there in my book.
Thieves are the scum of the earth. Well, one of many. But really up there in my book.
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nzshadow
·It's almost like a man who is completely obsessed with portraying a successful lifestyle on social media, and who thinks the way to do this is to become the living embodiment of a 12-year-olds version of 'what's cool', & lives out this narcissistic fantasy through filming his every movement, and who also happens to be a convicted felon isn't trustworthy.
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Walrus
·Money makes people do crazy things. Events like this seem to pop up in the watch world I guess any business is prone to these things. A past director I had got in way over his head with a gambling addiction and damn he got creative skimming funds. He found every soft spot and loop hole available. They drain those but eventually that’s not enough and they start doing more stupid and reckless things.
I’m not on Instagram or any of that stuff just watch a few watch reviews on you tube so I’m not hip to these guys. I never really grasped that whole consignment thing, here take this and sell it for me. There are so many avenues to sell things these days and anyone selling anything is usually not acting in anyone’s best interest that their own. Sell crap they don’t have, scrounge to obtain it, then they get one five hundred dollar return and it shakes them to the core as they are so stretched out they can’t handle it. Just things I’ve seen and read and not just with watches. I know that’s not consignment but often seems to be part of the game with many people who undertake consignment. I’m sure there are plenty of decent consignment operations out there just as there are many convicted felons who turn their lives around. It’s never pleasant to see people getting taken advantage and as others have said on occasion they pick the wrong victim and legal issues become a secondary matter.
I’m not on Instagram or any of that stuff just watch a few watch reviews on you tube so I’m not hip to these guys. I never really grasped that whole consignment thing, here take this and sell it for me. There are so many avenues to sell things these days and anyone selling anything is usually not acting in anyone’s best interest that their own. Sell crap they don’t have, scrounge to obtain it, then they get one five hundred dollar return and it shakes them to the core as they are so stretched out they can’t handle it. Just things I’ve seen and read and not just with watches. I know that’s not consignment but often seems to be part of the game with many people who undertake consignment. I’m sure there are plenty of decent consignment operations out there just as there are many convicted felons who turn their lives around. It’s never pleasant to see people getting taken advantage and as others have said on occasion they pick the wrong victim and legal issues become a secondary matter.
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Watch Maniac
·Nobody really knows we will find out soon.
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Evose
·Why delete all your social media channels but leave YouTube? Why would everyone go dark, including the lesser known staff? Maybe there's legal action at play and authorities have warned against leaking information and discussing matters on social during an active investigation? We just don't know.
I'm sure regardless, the implosion will have dire consequences on the industry as a whole — painting Grey as an ineffective alternative to AD. And if this is a marketing ploy for attention to unveil their rebranding and new location, I highly doubt they’ll ever regain trust in the industry.
Those that question the financial viability operating as they were, completely logical assessment. Even with their investor - they might have been put in a financial bind.
I'm sure regardless, the implosion will have dire consequences on the industry as a whole — painting Grey as an ineffective alternative to AD. And if this is a marketing ploy for attention to unveil their rebranding and new location, I highly doubt they’ll ever regain trust in the industry.
Those that question the financial viability operating as they were, completely logical assessment. Even with their investor - they might have been put in a financial bind.
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collectorBuy watches, keep them.
It is that easy to not get scammed.
We started this YouTube channel so we could build your trust.
It is that easy to not get scammed.
Summary: He's saying he has no idea what's happened, but confirmed they can't be reached, and they appeared to have disappeared. He's hoping it's a joke, trying to stay hopeful, etc.
TPG's disappearance is a particular problem for Josh, his business, and his channel because they're so obviously protégés of Anthony and Marco, and this video is Josh doing his best to put some distance and try to do damage control. Good luck with that.
We started this YouTube channel so we could build your trust.
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pIoNeErOfThEnILe
·hopefully it's a marketing ploy.
thing is, they can't remain invisible forever. they're whole brand was based on them being attention loving big shots. you can't run away. he's gonna have to tell a story eventually.
it's entirely possible they're bankrupt and have no money. but you think they would come clean and return those consigned watches.
they could be conspiring more. planning the right story to tell so they would have some kind of plausible excuse. what would work? gambling problem, drug problem. some type of robbery bs.
the story will come out. i mean,..where does he did he's gonna go..lol
thing is, they can't remain invisible forever. they're whole brand was based on them being attention loving big shots. you can't run away. he's gonna have to tell a story eventually.
it's entirely possible they're bankrupt and have no money. but you think they would come clean and return those consigned watches.
they could be conspiring more. planning the right story to tell so they would have some kind of plausible excuse. what would work? gambling problem, drug problem. some type of robbery bs.
the story will come out. i mean,..where does he did he's gonna go..lol
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night0wl
·Literally who ?
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tyrantlizardrex
·Super shifty grey market dealer makes idiotic YouTube videos, whilst living a lifestyle beyond their means, and the fact that it all goes pop is surprising because? 🙄
They’ll be lucky not to end up in the desert… there’s a lot of holes out there…
They’ll be lucky not to end up in the desert… there’s a lot of holes out there…
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaI sense the ghost of Chris Essery rattling around the inter-tubes.
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11b1p
·It is all staged or they are legitimately out of business. I’ve watched ever video and while they talked about reality TV they said you get forced into fake drama for the show and they didn’t want to have that. The argument on the last episode yadda yadda... If it’s staged then every one of these other dealers is complicit with playing along and saying the same talking points. Expect to see the new logo and and site after the holiday weekend.
If they went out of business maybe their investor pulled out and just done as TPG. Back to small time deals and flipping.
If they went out of business maybe their investor pulled out and just done as TPG. Back to small time deals and flipping.
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ERBM
·Roman Sharf, and a few of the other prominent "Youtube Watch Dealers", did a livestream in which the were trying to separate themselves from TPG. During that livestream the TPG owners Marco and Anthony were drop calling them and apparently texted him indicating all would be revealed soon. So overall it seems like a stunt that is probably backfiring, but hey it's got everyone talking, although maybe not in the way a new business would want. As they say though there's no such thing as bad publicity 🤔
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cvalue13
·If they went out of business maybe their investor pulled out
Werent their “investor” were 1000 people who donated $2000 each to be “VIPs”?
https://www.watchcollectinglifestyl...nishes-with-millions-in-consignment-inventory
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Evose
·Yeah, that it’s all 4 (?) people gone is the real head scratcher … they didn’t have so much money they could justify “here’s the plan guys, we’ll all 4 live happily ever after in Nigeria together”
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Evose
·Werent their “investor” were 1000 people who donated $2000 each to be “VIPs”?
https://www.watchcollectinglifestyl...nishes-with-millions-in-consignment-inventory
The $2k crowdfunding effort was intended to help their new location buildout, but they never acquired the full amount and maybe collected only 350/1000. The whole subject was riddled with controversy as comments rolled in on videos essentially calling it a ponzi scheme.
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shaun hk
·I had never heard of these guys before this thread, and have now watched 15 minutes of one of their YouTube videos and that was enough.
I am not saying they are the smartest bunch but they seem to be too savvy for this to be any sort of planned marketing gimmick. Numerous times the word trust has been used, in this thread and on the forums in general when talking about buying and selling. And this will destroy any trust they ever had. You do not want to create any doubt or fear when you are buying, selling or consigning watches valued at $30k.
So from what I have seen it can only be scam. How many people became members at $2k per head? How many watches sold but not yet shipped? They may have run out of cash and went bankrupt, but they way they were operating that is pretty much the same as a scam.
It would be nice if I am wrong and none of their customers or suppliers get burnt but I just don’t see it as a PR stunt.
I am not saying they are the smartest bunch but they seem to be too savvy for this to be any sort of planned marketing gimmick. Numerous times the word trust has been used, in this thread and on the forums in general when talking about buying and selling. And this will destroy any trust they ever had. You do not want to create any doubt or fear when you are buying, selling or consigning watches valued at $30k.
So from what I have seen it can only be scam. How many people became members at $2k per head? How many watches sold but not yet shipped? They may have run out of cash and went bankrupt, but they way they were operating that is pretty much the same as a scam.
It would be nice if I am wrong and none of their customers or suppliers get burnt but I just don’t see it as a PR stunt.
