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The Father
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Butcher ? Well they probably do know how to handle their meat.
So... any of our members here have an interest in firearms?
Butcher ? Well they probably do know how to handle their meat.
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Wryfox
·Bear with me, especially the Colt guys....
Finally my first Colt Python! It's a 1970 date by serial number. Pretty clean as far as I can tell. It was a reasonable price, and it sort of fell in my lap, so figured it was time to have one after 30yrs of collecting darn near everything else.
But I am not an expert on Colts. I'm a Smith guy.
I'm daring heresy by saying this, but what makes these so special?🍿
It all works just fine, better than average, but I don't hear angels singing or trumpets blaring, no ethereal glow, I just agree its a nice revolver. Smooth and all, very nice, but I have Smiths just as nice or better(Heresy again!)
I mostly like it because its NOT new in box with papers, ie the ones that everyone wants. I've never quite got the appeal of that, I only collect guns that I can shoot. 😕 Its been shot, and will be shot again.👍
Finally my first Colt Python! It's a 1970 date by serial number. Pretty clean as far as I can tell. It was a reasonable price, and it sort of fell in my lap, so figured it was time to have one after 30yrs of collecting darn near everything else.
But I am not an expert on Colts. I'm a Smith guy.
I'm daring heresy by saying this, but what makes these so special?🍿
It all works just fine, better than average, but I don't hear angels singing or trumpets blaring, no ethereal glow, I just agree its a nice revolver. Smooth and all, very nice, but I have Smiths just as nice or better(Heresy again!)
I mostly like it because its NOT new in box with papers, ie the ones that everyone wants. I've never quite got the appeal of that, I only collect guns that I can shoot. 😕 Its been shot, and will be shot again.👍
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Pastorbottle
·Nice hand cannon!
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Waltesefalcon
·Wry, that is a beautiful example you snagged. Congratulations on it.
It can be said that I have a thing for .357s, I own seven of them, two Uberti SAAs, a Colt New Service, a Colt 3-5-7, two Pythons, and a S&W .357 (pre Model 27 if you're into applying later model numbers to older guns). Talking about the double action guns, to me the Colt revolvers are superior to the S&W, the Smith .357 is a fine gun, and most people would love it. The SA pull on every one of my Colt double actions is better than the SA pull on my Smith. They break more cleanly and are all lighter.
The Smith is no slouch, though, it's better than average. The one place that truly objective people may say the Smith is better is in the DA trigger. That is because the Smith trigger does not stack in DA.
I grew up with Colt revolvers, and I like the stacking trigger, I know exactly where the trigger is going to break and hold it at that point just before the break. I always felt this gave me an edge in bullseye matches.
I guess I'm the exact opposite. After years of owning, shooting, and collecting Colts I finally bought a nice mid 50s Smith, and I don't know what the fuss is about.
Here are my medium frame DA .357s:
From top; 1954 S&W .357, 1976 Python, 1977 Python, 1954 Colt 3-5-7.
It can be said that I have a thing for .357s, I own seven of them, two Uberti SAAs, a Colt New Service, a Colt 3-5-7, two Pythons, and a S&W .357 (pre Model 27 if you're into applying later model numbers to older guns). Talking about the double action guns, to me the Colt revolvers are superior to the S&W, the Smith .357 is a fine gun, and most people would love it. The SA pull on every one of my Colt double actions is better than the SA pull on my Smith. They break more cleanly and are all lighter.
The Smith is no slouch, though, it's better than average. The one place that truly objective people may say the Smith is better is in the DA trigger. That is because the Smith trigger does not stack in DA.
I grew up with Colt revolvers, and I like the stacking trigger, I know exactly where the trigger is going to break and hold it at that point just before the break. I always felt this gave me an edge in bullseye matches.
I guess I'm the exact opposite. After years of owning, shooting, and collecting Colts I finally bought a nice mid 50s Smith, and I don't know what the fuss is about.
Here are my medium frame DA .357s:
From top; 1954 S&W .357, 1976 Python, 1977 Python, 1954 Colt 3-5-7.
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warrydog
·Based on my experience......
The Smith-Colt debate is akin to the Pizza comparison.
They may have different flavors, but they're all good
The Smith-Colt debate is akin to the Pizza comparison.
They may have different flavors, but they're all good
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Wryfox
·Wry, that is a beautiful example you snagged. Congratulations on it.
It can be said that I have a thing for .357s, I own seven of them, two Uberti SAAs, a Colt New Service, a Colt 3-5-7, two Pythons, and a S&W .357 (pre Model 27 if you're into applying later model numbers to older guns). Talking about the double action guns, to me the Colt revolvers are superior to the S&W, the Smith .357 is a fine gun, and most people would love it. The SA pull on every one of my Colt double actions is better than the SA pull on my Smith. They break more cleanly and are all lighter.
The Smith is no slouch, though, it's better than average. The one place that truly objective people may say the Smith is better is in the DA trigger. That is because the Smith trigger does not stack in DA.
I grew up with Colt revolvers, and I like the stacking trigger, I know exactly where the trigger is going to break and hold it at that point just before the break. I always felt this gave me an edge in bullseye matches.
I guess I'm the exact opposite. After years of owning, shooting, and collecting Colts I finally bought a nice mid 50s Smith, and I don't know what the fuss is about.
Here are my medium frame DA .357s:
From top; 1954 S&W .357, 1976 Python, 1977 Python, 1954 Colt 3-5-7.
Ooh yummy 3 5 7 there Waltese!
So I think I know why I wonder why it's so special. I see the Colt trigger as smooth but heavy feeling due to the stacking. It seems unnatural to me with my Smiths just being steady the whole way. I know when a Smith breaks the same way you feel about the Colt stacking. The stacking just seems a bit odd to me. What I do like is the vault like lockup of the cylinder. That's a distinct advantage for accuracy if the timing is dead on, and with a Python it usually is.....
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Waltesefalcon
·Ooh yummy 3 5 7 there Waltese!
So I think I know why I wonder why it's so special. I see the Colt trigger as smooth but heavy feeling due to the stacking. It seems unnatural to me with my Smiths just being steady the whole way. I know when a Smith breaks the same way you feel about the Colt stacking. The stacking just seems a bit odd to me. What I do like is the vault like lockup of the cylinder. That's a distinct advantage for accuracy if the timing is dead on, and with a Python it usually is.....
That lock up is terrific. The one downside to it is that since the timing hand is used in conjunction with the cylinder bolt to hold the cylinder rigidly in place during firing, hot loads can batter the hand, causing the gun to fall out of time after a few thousand rounds. Colt suggested replacing the timing hand every 2,000 rounds, I believe, to avoid the gun going out of time. This led to all kinds of wives tales about the fragility of Colt revolvers, which really just stemmed from an ignorance of the design.
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noelekal
··Home For Wayward WatchesOh man!
.357 Magnum goodness abounds here.
Wryfox; I"m enthused about your new Python acquisition. It's a very nice looking "usin' gun.". I applaud you for keeping your feet firmly on the ground with your realistic assessment of the revolver. Pythons are so nice, but they don't walk on water.
Waltesefalcon; I'm partial to the Colt 3 5 7 myself. Here's mine in with a group photo of the .357 Magnums on hand here. An older photograph, I acquired one additional .357 Magnum after the group picture on the rock.
Top to bottom:
Smith & Wesson Models: 27, 586, 19, 66, 13.
Colt Models: 3 5 7, Python.
The later addition, a 1954 N-Frame .357 Magnum produced prior to the factory's introduction of the model number nomenclature. This revolver became the Model 27 in 1957.
Classic Colt revolvers hold an honored second place in my heart, but classic Smith & Wesson remains at the top. I guess my trigger finger is too well worn in with the Smith & Wesson double-action trigger.
.357 Magnum goodness abounds here.
Wryfox; I"m enthused about your new Python acquisition. It's a very nice looking "usin' gun.". I applaud you for keeping your feet firmly on the ground with your realistic assessment of the revolver. Pythons are so nice, but they don't walk on water.
Waltesefalcon; I'm partial to the Colt 3 5 7 myself. Here's mine in with a group photo of the .357 Magnums on hand here. An older photograph, I acquired one additional .357 Magnum after the group picture on the rock.
Top to bottom:
Smith & Wesson Models: 27, 586, 19, 66, 13.
Colt Models: 3 5 7, Python.
The later addition, a 1954 N-Frame .357 Magnum produced prior to the factory's introduction of the model number nomenclature. This revolver became the Model 27 in 1957.
Classic Colt revolvers hold an honored second place in my heart, but classic Smith & Wesson remains at the top. I guess my trigger finger is too well worn in with the Smith & Wesson double-action trigger.
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Waltesefalcon
·Since we are talking .357s, here are the other three I mentioned earlier but were not in my photo. Two Uberti SAAs, and the big iron, 1914 Colt New Service, rechambered to .357, and was set up as someone's target revolver. It is a sweet shooting gun, that's heavy enough that .357 recoil feels like a .22.
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Pastorbottle
·We had a couple of Ruger .357s...that's what is normal to me in a revolver, I guess it's what you get used to, though I tended to use the Springfield .45 auto as my go to, so I really never got that much range time in with the Rugers, they were more Dad's go to.
One was a Security 6 the other a GP100 both with 6” barrels
One was a Security 6 the other a GP100 both with 6” barrels
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Wryfox
·All this talk about 357s, I went to search out what I had.....lets see, check the database...aha what a surprise! I've never actually put all of these together before.
Now for story time.....
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S&W 19-3 from 1976, my first pistol ever, from when I had hair and a 30waist. Picked it up in the mid 80s from a pawn shop. 👍
Ruger Blackhawk from 1968, My father in Law's first pistol. I've seen him use the butt as a hammer many times. Guns were tools, including loosening up wooden crate covers.😎 Inherited in 2019 after his passing. RIP George.
German made Bounty Hunter SAA, unknown year, given as a gift from a dear friend upon the start of my new business 10yrs ago. For good luck.
Colt Lawman MKIII Snubnose from 1978, picked it up at a police sale of confiscated guns 20 yrs ago. Still has the evidence inventory number engraved on it. A sordid past! I feel like a bad boy shooting it 😁
Smith Model 28-3 from 1984, from a retired friend of a friend about 10 yrs ago who was in a special forces program called Seaspray, clandestine ops in Central America back in the early 80s. This was his personal pistol he carried as they were allowed to pick whatever they wanted to carry. Looks ugly, don't it? He said he was in a particularly "interesting" op where blood got on the gun, which got into the finish, and he used naval jelly to clean up the metal but it also took the bluing off. I asked if it was his blood or someone else's.....he said he didn't know😲
An finally the new baby, Colt Python from 1970. Just because it was finally time to have one.👍
Now for story time.....
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S&W 19-3 from 1976, my first pistol ever, from when I had hair and a 30waist. Picked it up in the mid 80s from a pawn shop. 👍
Ruger Blackhawk from 1968, My father in Law's first pistol. I've seen him use the butt as a hammer many times. Guns were tools, including loosening up wooden crate covers.😎 Inherited in 2019 after his passing. RIP George.
German made Bounty Hunter SAA, unknown year, given as a gift from a dear friend upon the start of my new business 10yrs ago. For good luck.
Colt Lawman MKIII Snubnose from 1978, picked it up at a police sale of confiscated guns 20 yrs ago. Still has the evidence inventory number engraved on it. A sordid past! I feel like a bad boy shooting it 😁
Smith Model 28-3 from 1984, from a retired friend of a friend about 10 yrs ago who was in a special forces program called Seaspray, clandestine ops in Central America back in the early 80s. This was his personal pistol he carried as they were allowed to pick whatever they wanted to carry. Looks ugly, don't it? He said he was in a particularly "interesting" op where blood got on the gun, which got into the finish, and he used naval jelly to clean up the metal but it also took the bluing off. I asked if it was his blood or someone else's.....he said he didn't know😲
An finally the new baby, Colt Python from 1970. Just because it was finally time to have one.👍
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Wryfox
·Wanted to show off a most unusual 1873 Single Action revolver. Uberti "American Buntline" in 45 Colt with an 18" barrel. They are uncommon in only that it's a cool display piece. You don't see them at the range (except by me). Theoretically, the longer sight radius should make aiming more precise but in reality that front sight looks a mite small and is hard to center. Obviously front heavy so recoil is very manageable. It's one of those guns that houseguests always ask "what the heck is that?"
Supposedly the story of the Buntline revolver comes from a 1930s article stating that decades before, Ned Buntline, a novelist, had Colt make a special 12" barreled SAA to give to Wyatt Earp for telling his story for a book. Fact is, no one has ever confirmed the gun ever existed, not even from the Earp family, or Colt. But its a cool story that captured the imagination and Colt took advantage of the popularity of this and the old west in general by by actually making their own Buntline model in the late 1950s. Uberti, an old Italian gun maker, made copies of the Buntline off and on the past few decades. More affordable than the Colt, and look just as nice IMHO.
Supposedly the story of the Buntline revolver comes from a 1930s article stating that decades before, Ned Buntline, a novelist, had Colt make a special 12" barreled SAA to give to Wyatt Earp for telling his story for a book. Fact is, no one has ever confirmed the gun ever existed, not even from the Earp family, or Colt. But its a cool story that captured the imagination and Colt took advantage of the popularity of this and the old west in general by by actually making their own Buntline model in the late 1950s. Uberti, an old Italian gun maker, made copies of the Buntline off and on the past few decades. More affordable than the Colt, and look just as nice IMHO.
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Pastorbottle
·More like a hand carbine!
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noelekal
··Home For Wayward WatchesA hand load consisting of a case-full of Hodgdon H110 or a heavy charge of 2400 under a 158-180 grain bullet would build up a good head of steam in that long-snouted barrel of Wryfox's Uberti. A person would have a potent "side arm" indeed if he could contrive to tote it.
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Wryfox
·A hand load consisting of a case-full of Hodgdon H110 or a heavy charge of 2400 under a 158-180 grain bullet would build up a good head of steam in that long-snouted barrel of Wryfox's Uberti. A person would have a potent "side arm" indeed if he could contrive to tote it.
That's called a 45 Magnum with those loads, Noelekal! Yeehaw!😎
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Waltesefalcon
·I've thought about picking one of those up a time or two, but I can't ever justify it to myself.
Years ago, I did buy a hugely impractical gun just because it was fun, and I do love shooting it. Sadly, it seems I've not saved a photo of a target from it. It is a rather accurate revolver, especially when you consider the sights on it are rudimentary. The Armi San Marco, Walker! A true hand cannon weighing in at over 4# unloaded. The third picture offers up a 6" Python for a size reference.
Years ago, I did buy a hugely impractical gun just because it was fun, and I do love shooting it. Sadly, it seems I've not saved a photo of a target from it. It is a rather accurate revolver, especially when you consider the sights on it are rudimentary. The Armi San Marco, Walker! A true hand cannon weighing in at over 4# unloaded. The third picture offers up a 6" Python for a size reference.
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Pastorbottle
·I'd like to see a quick draw artist with one of those 18"ers!
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Wryfox
·I've thought about picking one of those up a time or two, but I can't ever justify it to myself.
Years ago, I did buy a hugely impractical gun just because it was fun, and I do love shooting it. Sadly, it seems I've not saved a photo of a target from it. It is a rather accurate revolver, especially when you consider the sights on it are rudimentary. The Armi San Marco, Walker! A true hand cannon weighing in at over 4# unloaded. The third picture offers up a 6" Python for a size reference.
Well hey now! Not many folks like the big ones like a Walker. 👍
I picked up this Walker a very long time ago. No maker marks so I think it's a kit gun. Fellow who had it before me customized it and aged it. Pretty neat I think.
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CBM1590
·Decided to take a pic of my EDC (everyday carry). While I have a host of Glocks to choose from, my G19, a Streamlight, a Spyderco blade, and my Speedy are my go-to’s.
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·Thought I'd share something pretty neat. A Husqvarna Swedish M40. Kinda like the Luger but the not at all like the Luger. I think I told the M40 history story before with my first M40 post above. But what's interesting about this one is the serial number is one of the group provided to the Danish Resistance in WWII to train and prepare refugees from Denmark to take back their country from Nazi Germany. The markings you see here are for the post war Danish National Police, who continued to use the M40 for some time after the war.
