So... any of our members here have an interest in firearms?

Waltesefalcon · Nov 19, 2020

Since we are showing off some gun leather here is an old Tom Threepersons holster made by an old Mexican man that worked on the ranch near where we lived when I was a kid. It was made for my dad probably forty five years ago. The 1911 is my 89 Delta Elite and the stocks are buffalo horn.

64Wing · Nov 19, 2020

Waltesefalcon
Since we are showing off some gun leather here is an old Tom Threepersons holster made by an old Mexican man that worked on the ranch near where we lived when I was a kid. It was made for my dad probably forty five years ago. The 1911 is my 89 Delta Elite and the stocks are buffalo horn.

I don't typically care for artwork on leather. But accompanied by this backstory, it's delightful. Really a neat example of craftsmanship from someone long gone, but that piece of them remains

impalla62ss · Nov 19, 2020

New Acquisition, new to me at least. M1A Loaded Model with 6.5 Creedmore instead of .308. I can't wait for moose season.

noelekal · Nov 19, 2020

Hah! Didn't know the Springfield Armory M1A came in 6.5 Creedmore. I need to keep up with things more often. Very cool.

Being an ol' fogey, I admire the M1A more than I do the AR 15.

Waltesefalcon · Nov 20, 2020

Showing off a bit more tooled gun leather here, though nothing as nice as the last one I showed off. The first one is an older Mexican holster being modeled by my Uberti SAA, the second one a Bucheimer paddle holster being modeled by the very utilitarian Colt Agent, and the last a Bianchi (a real one) being modeled by my Python.

The Father · Nov 28, 2020

Getting 5.45x39 Rock River Arms/Adams Arms AR out of the archives for a range trip. Have vast quantity of 5.45 ammo in reserve so I guess I’ll shoot some. Adams Arms a gas piston vs a regular DI
5.45(steel)and 5.56(brass)for comparison.

Wryfox · Dec 2, 2020

Hopefully some find this interesting....

Went shooting with a friend who works at a company who does bank renovations. He brought out a piece of BRP(Bullet Resistant Panel), 1/4" thick. It's used for employee desks and behind the lower counters/walls of the tellers.

Supposed to be resistant to all pistol calibers up to 44 mag. The interesting thing about this paneling is that as it delaminates, it actually becomes MORE capable of stopping bullets. I think we put about 100 rounds into this panel and NONE passed through. It actually had a funny aspect of flinging the bullets back to us as the panel flexed under impact. The bullets actually rolled back to us along the ground. We started with 22LR (just a ding), through 22 mag, 38 special, 9mm, 45ACP, and 10mm magnum. All stopped just fine at 7yds. We finally shot 223 rifle and 7.62x39(35yds) and it punched right through, though slowing the 7.62 enough that we could find fragments laying on the berm behind. The flattened bullets below are as follows from the top: 38SPL, 45ACP LRN(2), 7.62x39FMJ, 9mm FMJ, 45ACP FMJ(3)

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Rodentman · Dec 2, 2020

What gun do you have that is 10mm Mag? I tried to get a shop to bore out the cylinder of my S&W 610 but they wouldn't. I know it can be done. I am not aware of any "stock" 10mm mag firearms though. I wouldn't mind having one. I also have a hankering for a .357 Max which are out there but scarce.

Professor · Dec 2, 2020

Rodentman
What gun do you have that is 10mm Mag? I tried to get a shop to bore out the cylinder of my S&W 610 but they wouldn't. I know it can be done. I am not aware of any "stock" 10mm mag firearms though. I wouldn't mind having one. I also have a hankering for a .357 Max which are out there but scarce.

The Revolver equivalent would be the .41 Magnum. The cartridge comes in two power levels, one is a magnum level the other a target level which is similar in power to the old .38-40.
My Nephew once owned one.

The .41 Remington Magnum, .41 Magnum, or 10.4×33mmR as it is known in unofficial metric designation, is a center fire firearms cartridge primarily developed for use in large-frame revolvers,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.41_Remington_Magnum

noelekal · Dec 4, 2020

I will suggest that, in the handgun realm, the .41 Magnum is a distinct step above the 10mm in power and performance. I've been playing with both cartridges, both with various factory loads and through handloading for some years now. The 10mm is a good potent auto pistol cartridge, but the .41 Magnum takes things to a whole new level, offering the ability to fling significantly heavier bullets of infinitesimally greater diameter to higher velocities. I frequent some firearms forums where it is frequently claimed that the 10mm is the automatic pistol cartridge equivalent of the .41 Magnum, but that just ain't so.

Top: Smith & Wesson Model 57 .41 Magnum shown with its cartridge
Bottom: Colt Delta Elite 10mm shown with its cartridge.

The Father · Dec 4, 2020

Well you can spend $20 and walk around looking at overpriced guns and ammo at a gunshow. Not sure why I went but it did kill a couple hours. Maybe this is the new normal.
$600 for 1,000 rounds of crap 9mm
One tent had steel crap(I would shoot it) just not $670 for 1,000.
$1500 low end AR’s that where $500 a year ago.

Saw people in the ammo line with dollies and wagons. Are they really gonna load them up for $3 or $4,000?

Anyway I got my walk-in around exercise.

I wonder if watch shows are the same. A bunch of smarmy bastards with overpriced stuff.

noelekal · Dec 4, 2020

I'll be at the gun show all night tonight and tomorrow night. Y'all come by and you can watch guns sleeping on their exhibit tables with me.

Nice hobby money in retirement and there is the occasional "real deal" to sneak up on before the doors open in the morning to the public.

I'll probably be poking around on Omegaforums for part of the night.

I too have wondered what a watch show would be like to attend.

MikiJ · Dec 4, 2020

noelekal
I will suggest that, in the handgun realm, the .41 Magnum is a distinct step above the 10mm in power and performance. I've been playing with both cartridges, both with various factory loads and through handloading for some years now. The 10mm is a good potent auto pistol cartridge, but the .41 Magnum takes things to a whole new level, offering the ability to fling significantly heavier bullets of infinitesimally greater diameter to higher velocities. I frequent some firearms forums where it is frequently claimed that the 10mm is the automatic pistol cartridge equivalent of the .41 Magnum, but that just ain't so.

Top: Smith & Wesson Model 57 .41 Magnum shown with its cartridge
Bottom: Colt Delta Elite 10mm shown with its cartridge.

When I was in the "Joint" business and coming home at all hours of the morning my wife wanted a hand gun that if and when the dogs woke her up and there was someone at the door that wasn't a cop or a friend that she wouldn't have to open the door to say "Good By" so I bought her a 4" S&W 57. It's still there today and she can shoot the hell out of it 😉

Professor · Dec 6, 2020

noelekal
I only carry at 4 o'clock and won't even attempt appendix carry. I prefer OWB except if I feel I can't get by with it. I don't open carry for I don't wish to be seen carrying.

I don't tote the Colt Single Action Army revolver seriously. Toted one through a day last winter though, just as a lark. Attended a board meeting, went about our small town, and stopped in at my wife's office. Nobody had to know I was toting.

I was carrying the 1905 manufactured Colt Single Action Army .38-40 in a vintage Brill, the lighter hued of the two holsters seen here.

A 3 1/2-inch N-Frame Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum carried on a recent trip into the Dallas Fort Worth area for the day.

My old favorite Smith & Wesson Model 10 Heavy Barrel .38 Special with its OWB carry choice, a Bucheimer Federal Man holster which carries the side arm high on the belt.

Older photographs of the personal perennial favorite of favorite side arm in its Bell Charter Oak Mae West IWB hoslter.

If feeling in an "automatic-ish mood" this Colt Government Model .45 generally gets the call in this older Bucheimer Federal Man holster for OWB use.

A superior holster for concealed carry, this probably 70-85 year old Brill is the best of the best for 1911 OWB use at 4:00, but it's too collectible to subject to regular service. I've got a order in with a custom holster maker to make one like it for serious use.

When IWB carry is deemed expedient, this is one of two holsters used with the Colt Government Models. It's a custom made holster that is quite comfortable.

The gun belt is more important than anything else in being able to carry and conceal a handgun well. The right one will allow one to carry any ol' ordnance in perfect comfort.

Going back through the posts I just spotted something I'd missed before.
The canoe style case pocket knife is identical to one I gave my dad for Christmas around 1970.
I'd run across an old hardware store with very low prices on its pocket knives and brought several case folders of different styles as presents for the male members of the family. I gave my dad his first choice of style and he chose that one.
Many years later while cleaning up the old house I found a stash of his personal pocket knives going back to pre WW2. Not all of them unfortunately. There were some really nice ones. He had great taste in knives. I think my older brother ended up with the canoe case. I picked out a fine slightly worn 30's Camillus with a razor edge and a small untouched John Primble, the factory edge still very sharp.
I occasionally carry an old German Eye I found in a easy chair I was cleaning up. No one claimed it and I believe it belonged to a long deceased uncle. The exterior shows slight pocket wear, the blades are untouched and bright with super sharp factory edges, the engraving in perfect condition. Not a knife I carry if I expect to use it for anything that might mar the blades.
I have a Wilkinson Silver Sword Stockman I I keep in a coat pocket and have made good use of over the years, It remains nice looking and is very handy. I traded a large Pakistan made folder for it. I certainly got the better of that deal.

Here's a home made IWB holster I made for my 1911 many years ago.

The 1911 Remington Rand is long gone but the Holster is still useful for my S&W 59, FN1922 and various auto pistols.

Professor · Dec 6, 2020

impalla62ss
New Acquisition, new to me at least. M1A Loaded Model with 6.5 Creedmore instead of .308. I can't wait for moose season.

You might want to get one of these to go with it.

A Springfield Armory spring piston pellet gun version, with full wooden stock. Weight over 9 pounds.

It appears to be based on an old South Korean training rifle which they produced as a Garand replica for indoor practice.

BradleyJ. · Dec 9, 2020

hopefully this link works but according to the news this Mall Santa "resigned" after the incident lol.

hard to hear but the poor kid wanted a nerf gun for Xmas. Santa shut that down and the kid cried.

noelekal · Dec 9, 2020

Mall Santa's just a sorry sort of person.

Professor · Dec 10, 2020

Even back in the early 60's ,when almost all toy pistols bore little resemblance to any real pistol, there were news stories of cops shooting children if they walked up on them unaware while playing.
These days many toy guns, especially air soft guns, are indistinguishable from their real counterparts.
I'd never give a child a toy gun these days.
I would give an older youngster a good air rifle or even a .22 rimfire before I'd consider giving them a toy gun, because since either is potentially harmful or even deadly they would be taught to know that they should never point such a gun at anyone. They must be taught not to horse around.

Air soft guns shouldn't leave the house unless taken to a designated airsoft field or used for target practice in an enclosed back yard.

Which reminds me. Years ago some gangs were found to have hollowed out super soakers and mounted a pump shotgun inside. Haven't heard of that being done lately.
With the fad for multi colored baked on finishes some pocket guns look very much like plastic toys.

There have been a number of murders committed with not very powerful pellet guns, and some modern PCP rifles are as powerful as a .44 magnum pistol.
There are some full auto pellet rifles these days that could destroy a person's face with a short burst, permanent blinding being almost certain.

Sad to say but modern society has made letting kids play with toy guns a potentially disastrous decision.

64Wing · Dec 10, 2020

Professor
Even back in the early 60's ,when almost all toy pistols bore little resemblance to any real pistol, there were news stories of cops shooting children if they walked up on them unaware while playing.
These days many toy guns, especially air soft guns, are indistinguishable from their real counterparts.
I'd never give a child a toy gun these days.
I would give an older youngster a good air rifle or even a .22 rimfire before I'd consider giving them a toy gun, because since either is potentially harmful or even deadly they would be taught to know that they should never point such a gun at anyone. They must be taught not to horse around.

Air soft guns shouldn't leave the house unless taken to a designated airsoft field or used for target practice in an enclosed back yard.

Which reminds me. Years ago some gangs were found to have hollowed out super soakers and mounted a pump shotgun inside. Haven't heard of that being done lately.
With the fad for multi colored baked on finishes some pocket guns look very much like plastic toys.

There have been a number of murders committed with not very powerful pellet guns, and some modern PCP rifles are as powerful as a .44 magnum pistol.
There are some full auto pellet rifles these days that could destroy a person's face with a short burst, permanent blinding being almost certain.

Sad to say but modern society has made letting kids play with toy guns a potentially disastrous decision.

My mom wouldn't really allow us to have toy guns growing up. I mean, there was the occasional supersoaker or nerf gun. As an aside, these were a relatively expensive toy. With 5 boys to raise, there was seldom spare coin to indulge us in such things. I found out many years later that mom and dad managed to stick to a Christmas budget of $200 or so per child. That's still no small amount of money, especially for a single income home. But our memories of Christmas are as magical and full of love as one could ever ask or hope for.

Now, fast forward to the present day and four of the five of us own firearms. Two of us carry regularly, one carries everyday (tis I).

My brother (the other one that carries) and I were talking guns a few weeks back while visiting home. We each cleared our respective piece and swapped with each other to examine them. As we discussed the finer points of features, sights, release points, magazine capacities, and so on, mom remarked to dad, "did you ever think our boys would know so much about guns and be so proficient with them?"

That's what she said verbatim. Made me kinda proud I suppose. She was so moved by the respect we harbored for our right to bear arms that she decided she'd like to go learn to shoot pistols. As a younger teen, she would accompany her brothers to the skeet range to fire shotguns. But she had never handled a pistol. To make a long story short she obtained her CPL after demonstrating her proficiency. We were very proud of her achievement and I think she truly enjoyed it.

I make sure to mention to her from time to time that it is a perishable skill and she should practice with the brother that lives nearby on some regular basis. Lord knows he has enough ammo to share.

Anyway, your statements about toy guns just got me to thinking.

Pleasant day, all!

mr.snakeman · Dec 11, 2020

Just a couple of my babies.