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Snoopy 2025 production issues?

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What makes you think they’ll announce an official stance?
Perhaps I could have chosen more precise words, but what I really mean is whether the service centre will treat this as a manufacturing defect covered under warranty, or say “this snoopy subdial is within tolerance”.
 
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wow... I would have never noticed. Interesting phenomena. Seems they would want to have all the special editions look exactly the same. Will someone get fired for this?

I don't think I'm in the market any longer any way. Too expensive. So will I go look if the lady from the OB calls? Probably. Need to trade a few more options I suppose.
 
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That’s probably the fourth or fifth OB purchased Snoopy I’ve seen with the variation. If anything, this should give some comfort to AD/grey buyers who might be worried that they have a watch that isn’t genuine. That’s not the case.

One thing I will say, in addition to this, is that the strap quality control is pretty bad. I know it was unconvered some years ago that these are not made by omega and are outsourced, but look at this terrible glue job. I manually cleaned it up myself with small scissors.

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That seems odd. I will have to pay more attention when I purchase the next watch.
 
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That’s probably the fourth or fifth OB purchased Snoopy I’ve seen with the variation. If anything, this should give some comfort to AD/grey buyers who might be worried that they have a watch that isn’t genuine. That’s not the case.

One thing I will say, in addition to this, is that the strap quality control is pretty bad. I know it was unconvered some years ago that these are not made by omega and are outsourced, but look at this terrible glue job. I manually cleaned it up myself with small scissors.

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My strap was replaced under warranty, it's still in the plastic because I got the bracelet.
 
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At this point I just want to know Omega’s official stance on this. It’s definitely a thinner-lined Snoopy, and it lacks some delineations that were previously present, but I really don’t think it looks that bad, just different. The zipper removal is probably the most puzzling part to me.
Have you asked them?
 
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Have you asked them?
I’ve sent them an email linking both threads, and I’m imagining others may have done the same, though in my experience it takes some time to hear back.
 
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Snoopy Mark I and Mark II have joined the history books. Next edition of MWO.

No way will Omega call this a defect, imo.

OG Snoopy:
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Snoopy Mark I and Mark II have joined the history books. Next edition of MWO.

No way will Omega call this a defect, imo.

OG Snoopy:
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THAT Snoopy's hesalite needs some polywatch, I'll tell you what.
 
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Here’s a much a better photo of the new Snoopy in the same position as the old Snoopy. It’s worth noting that the stars are bigger/contain more visible silver in the new one. Also, the anniversary text being thinner (less silver) whereas Snoopy has thinner blue lines (more silver) lends credence to a new manufacturing process.

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Not to make excuses for Omega, but some of y'all need to put away the loupe and just enjoy your watches. It's not like snoopy was missing a head or the space capsule in the back look more like a shoebox. If I got one at retail price, I'd probably still be pretty damn happy regardless of these minor details.
 
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Not to make excuses for Omega, but some of y'all need to put away the loupe and just enjoy your watches. It's not like snoopy was missing a head or the space capsule in the back look more like a shoebox. If I got one at retail price, I'd probably still be pretty damn happy regardless of these minor details.
........says the Omega employee 😉

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Not to make excuses for Omega, but some of y'all need to put away the loupe and just enjoy your watches. It's not like snoopy was missing a head or the space capsule in the back look more like a shoebox. If I got one at retail price, I'd probably still be pretty damn happy regardless of these minor details.
Honestly I don’t think it looks bad, but the faint traces of a zipper do give me some pause. That part seems like something that isn’t intended, and it doesn’t feel great to know you might have purchased something that’s the result of a manufacturing error. But the overall thinner lines, I don’t actually think is an issue at all (assuming it’s an intended or within tolerance drift).

And yeah, it’s still a phenomenal watch overall. I’m not unhappy, but I’d like some clarification from the horse’s mouth.
 
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Honestly I don’t think it looks bad, but the faint traces of a zipper do give me some pause. That part seems like something that isn’t intended, and it doesn’t feel great to know you might have purchased something that’s the result of a manufacturing error. But the overall thinner lines, I don’t actually think is an issue at all (assuming it’s an intended or within tolerance drift).

And yeah, it’s still a phenomenal watch overall. I’m not unhappy, but I’d like some clarification from the horse’s mouth.
Oh no doubt. Even if I were happy, it would be nice to hear from Omega regarding this.
 
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THAT Snoopy's hesalite needs some polywatch, I'll tell you what.
Yes, but his zipper is clearly defined. 😀
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Not to make excuses for Omega, but some of y'all need to put away the loupe and just enjoy your watches.
Too late. Once you see it, you can't unsee it..
 
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Here’s a much a better photo of the new Snoopy in the same position as the old Snoopy. It’s worth noting that the stars are bigger/contain more visible silver in the new one. Also, the anniversary text being thinner (less silver) whereas Snoopy has thinner blue lines (more silver) lends credence to a new manufacturing process.

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These are two very interesting examples......the first one looks pretty good, Snoopy's zipper is clearly defined, the edge of his right foot is defined, and his left paw has clear outlines of his five claws. But look at the eight stars in the sky, three of them are ill defined and you can't see the five points of each of the stars, one is only a silver dot. The second example has the issues of a missing zipper, no right foot edge, and his left paw has no definition, and details like the umbilical cord are weak and fainter, but all of the eight stars have five clearly defined points. I think this shows how precise and critical the process has to be to make this little subdial. If everything is not right.....thickness of the silver blank, the condition of the stamping die and its applied pressure, application of the blue enamel and the subsequent machining of the dial the results will vary. Perhaps it is all within tolerances in Omega's eyes but for a special piece at a premium price I think the results should be more consistent, like an MS70 graded coin. As others have said, once you see the 'deficiencies' you can't unsee them. It certainly seems the process or the supplier has changed over the years. Maybe it's cost related, maybe it's to increase supply, or some other reason, one thing is certain we will never know what's happened. I doubt Omega will address or entertain any claims regarding these dials, they will all be considered 'within tolerance' and you will be carefully told that you were fortunate to be given the opportunity to acquire a Snoopy. So, don't worry, be happy.
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Touche, but I think that it's being blown way out of proportion, and stand by my statement that the naked eye is not good enough to appreciate the detail in these.

Bsowers- definitely not trying to undermine your feelings, it's great you're chill about it... but I can see this with my naked eye.
 
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I don't know why some of you believed the conspiracy theory that someone is giving Omega fake dials, when the fakes can't even get the basic Speedmaster subdial spacing right.

It's definitely more than a coincidence that since around the beginning of 2024, we've seen much more, "I got the call!" posts and an influx of social media people showing off their new piece. I even got a call from my OB asking if I wanted to purchase one... and I was not on a list and have no interest in it at all.

Whatever Omega did to boost production numbers on this "money printer" watch caused this.

Exactly.
 
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What makes you think they’ll announce an official stance?

I wouldn't. If I were Omega I would replace these dials as they come in for service or as Service is requested and never confirm publicly there was an "error."

That'd be the Rolex play.
 
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