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Snoopy 2025 production issues?
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rebar
·😬 how I feel about all this. Tight tolerances and string QC are non negotiable to me at Omega’s price point.
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DoctorEvil
·Just saw this 2025 model listed for sale by a grey market dealer in Australia on a Facebook group I belong to. The listing has a close up photo of of the dial which has the features which the OP has pointed out. Adding this to the database FWIW...
I'm willing to give Omega the benefit of the doubt that this is not some kind of production defect or lax QC. They'd crazy given that this is a highly sought after collectors piece. I suspect that Omega may have more than one dial supplier or that they switched suppliers at some point, resulting in this slight variation of Snoopy on the dial. I'm fairly sure that Speedmasters in the past may have had minor variations like this even within the same reference.
I'm willing to give Omega the benefit of the doubt that this is not some kind of production defect or lax QC. They'd crazy given that this is a highly sought after collectors piece. I suspect that Omega may have more than one dial supplier or that they switched suppliers at some point, resulting in this slight variation of Snoopy on the dial. I'm fairly sure that Speedmasters in the past may have had minor variations like this even within the same reference.
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PandaSPUR
·Just saw this 2025 model listed for sale by a grey market dealer in Australia on a Facebook group I belong to. The listing has a close up photo of of the dial which has the features which the OP has pointed out. Adding this to the database FWIW...
I'm willing to give Omega the benefit of the doubt that this is not some kind of production defect or lax QC. They'd crazy given that this is a highly sought after collectors piece. I suspect that Omega may have more than one dial supplier or that they switched suppliers at some point, resulting in this slight variation of Snoopy on the dial. I'm fairly sure that Speedmasters in the past may have had minor variations like this even within the same reference.
Although, that newer one actually has better defined stars than mine lol.
This is mine from December 2023:
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kidnamedomega
·What if just the dial was faked but mounted onto a current gen. Speedy?
The snoopy looks exactly like that last photo shared by DoctorEvil. The different supplier theory sounds pretty possible as they seem to consistently look like that when taken with a good macro lens.
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pdxleaf
·Just saw this 2025 model listed for sale by a grey market dealer in Australia on a Facebook group I belong to. The listing has a close up photo of of the dial which has the features which the OP has pointed out. Adding this to the database FWIW...
I'm willing to give Omega the benefit of the doubt that this is not some kind of production defect or lax QC. They'd crazy given that this is a highly sought after collectors piece. I suspect that Omega may have more than one dial supplier or that they switched suppliers at some point, resulting in this slight variation of Snoopy on the dial. I'm fairly sure that Speedmasters in the past may have had minor variations like this even within the same reference.
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Tekashi_145.022
·It would be nice to see how the Snoopy illustration is made on the dials to better appreciate the manufacturing process and provide insight into what is causing these changes. I am by no means a Peanuts connoisseur, but the weight of the lines on the Speedmasters in question doesn’t “feel” like a Peanuts illustration to me, and the lack of detail looks amateurish.
Someone posted a new variation of the Seamaster 300M bracelet within the last year indicating Omega is adding new suppliers—maybe that’s what’s happening here, too.
Someone posted a new variation of the Seamaster 300M bracelet within the last year indicating Omega is adding new suppliers—maybe that’s what’s happening here, too.
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kidnamedomega
·Mine looks EXACTLY like that. That subdial looks engraved, not die stamped, at least to me. Got it February 1, 2025 at the OB.
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M.Alessa
·I took a close Pic of my Snoopy which I bought new from a grey dealer, the warranty card was stamped 18 Feb 2025 and the watch was bought from Omega Flagship Store Shanghai Peace Hotel.
I have to say I'm disappointed
I have to say I'm disappointed
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bsowers34
·You have to really look at these through the loupe to appreciate the detail. No pictures do it justice, neither does the naked eye.
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Meme-Dweller
·I don't have a macro camera lens, but through the loupe mine looks perfect. All the details are there, crisp and sharply defined.
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ErichKeane
·No it's not. I can see it from your pictures at a glance... you have the newer version where the feet look like one piece
https://omegaforums.net/posts/2493796/
Nope. Fits the lugs perfectly, and I don't even notice the 1-2mm overhang of the end links. The 3861 bracelet are great, but I have both of those and wanted a flatlink.
bsowers34 ·
Thanks for your reply. I believe that bracelet required a bit of work to make it fit ?
https://omegaforums.net/posts/2495787/
Great. I like mine a LOT more on a bracelet, I went with the 57 flat link.
bsowers34 ·
Thanks. I visited the omega boutique yesterday in London. They allowed me to fit the bracelet to see if it worked for me. Thankfully it’s done the trick and I’m now enjoying my watch.
https://omegaforums.net/posts/2497109/
bsowers34 ·
Four to compare…pictures not dead on, but the chrono hand is perfect on them.
Pictures aren't fantastic, and there are some compression artifacts on some of them, but @bsowers34 's snoopy seems to have the problem too. I think that puts the last-nail in the "these are fakes" coffin to me.
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kidnamedomega
·That’s probably the fourth or fifth OB purchased Snoopy I’ve seen with the variation. If anything, this should give some comfort to AD/grey buyers who might be worried that they have a watch that isn’t genuine. That’s not the case.
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bsowers34
·I think I agree. For others, here are all the pictures he has of his Snoopy:
https://omegaforums.net/posts/2493796/bsowers34 ·Nope. Fits the lugs perfectly, and I don't even notice the 1-2mm overhang of the end links. The 3861 bracelet are great, but I have both of those and wanted a flatlink.Thanks for your reply. I believe that bracelet required a bit of work to make it fit ?
https://omegaforums.net/posts/2495787/bsowers34 ·Great. I like mine a LOT more on a bracelet, I went with the 57 flat link.Thanks. I visited the omega boutique yesterday in London. They allowed me to fit the bracelet to see if it worked for me. Thankfully it’s done the trick and I’m now enjoying my watch.https://omegaforums.net/posts/2497109/bsowers34 ·Four to compare…pictures not dead on, but the chrono hand is perfect on them.
Pictures aren't fantastic, and there are some compression artifacts on some of them, but @bsowers34 's snoopy seems to have the problem too. I think that puts the last-nail in the "these are fakes" coffin to me.
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kidnamedomega
·At this point I just want to know Omega’s official stance on this. It’s definitely a thinner-lined Snoopy, and it lacks some delineations that were previously present, but I really don’t think it looks that bad, just different. The zipper removal is probably the most puzzling part to me.
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ErichKeane
·Touche, but I think that it's being blown way out of proportion, and stand by my statement that the naked eye is not good enough to appreciate the detail in these.
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Davidt
·At this point I just want to know Omega’s official stance on this. It’s definitely a thinner-lined Snoopy, and it lacks some delineations that were previously present, but I really don’t think it looks that bad, just different. The zipper removal is probably the most puzzling part to me.
What makes you think they’ll announce an official stance?
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bsowers34
·Yeah, don't disagree here. Just curious/interested in seeing how this goes. IF I had an opportunity on a Snoopy (which I'm on/off the fence on 😁), I would probably not care about this/it wouldn't matter to me.
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Meme-Dweller
·I don't know why some of you believed the conspiracy theory that someone is giving Omega fake dials, when the fakes can't even get the basic Speedmaster subdial spacing right.
It's definitely more than a coincidence that since around the beginning of 2024, we've seen much more, "I got the call!" posts and an influx of social media people showing off their new piece. I even got a call from my OB asking if I wanted to purchase one... and I was not on a list and have no interest in it at all.
Whatever Omega did to boost production numbers on this "money printer" watch caused this.
It's definitely more than a coincidence that since around the beginning of 2024, we've seen much more, "I got the call!" posts and an influx of social media people showing off their new piece. I even got a call from my OB asking if I wanted to purchase one... and I was not on a list and have no interest in it at all.
Whatever Omega did to boost production numbers on this "money printer" watch caused this.