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Seiko Lord Marvel J14038 / J14049

  1. sdre Sep 14, 2020

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    Been quiet lately due to RL commitments.. however as always, I have been on the hunt for Interesting watches with some form of history and this brings me to the Seiko Lord Marvel J14038 (steel case) and the J14039 (14k gold plated)

    @bigsom has been a source of inspiration on this and i would like to thank him for it.

    Owning Grand Seikos are a joy and it would seem natural to look into older vintage GS as a another form of collecting. However, vintage 44GS/57/62GS... Their prices have gone up quite Abit. While I think they are still fun to collect (at a reasonable price point) I decided to delve deeper which brings me to the 3180, the first Grand Seiko.

    Looking at market prices and apparently many redial models left me in want, so I decided to get a SBGW253 just to cover that. Lovely watch which hits home on many attractive points....

    But it wasn't a real real vintage GS... So I decided to look into it Abit further and found the first carved dial Seiko.

    J14038/J14039

    I swore to never wear gold but these burnished gold is so nice. They go under the radar and in some lighting looks almost rose gold.

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    Hope everyone enjoys this as much as I did.
     
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  2. kip595 Sep 14, 2020

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    Thoroughly great set of pieces. I hope to find an early steel LM myself at some point. Thanks for sharing!
     
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  3. rkman11 Sep 14, 2020

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    Love these!
     
  4. bigsom Sep 14, 2020

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    Beautiful photos man! These carved dials are just really lovely. The markers for these were also planted by hand.
     
    18k LM carved (1 of 2).jpg IMG_20200912_121325.jpg IMG_20200914_093435.jpg LM carved on black epsom contrast (1 of 1).jpg 18k LM carved (1 of 2)~2.jpg
  5. b-lilja Sep 14, 2020

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    So Japanese...hard to put my finger on why - but yet so clear. Awesome.
     
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  6. sdre Sep 15, 2020

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    A friend said the same thing. The design language is so clear and distinct.
     
  7. sdre Sep 15, 2020

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    great video on Seiko's history and the Marvel/Lord Marvel
     
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  8. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Sep 15, 2020

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    Good stuff! And one of my favorite vintage Seiko model lines.

    This NOS example has the original tags and wax/plastic button, which reads "OF BEST QUALITY" on one side, and, like the case back, "SPECIALLY INSPECTED" on the reverse.

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  9. michael22 Sep 15, 2020

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    Awesome. Is there an S on the crown?
     
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  10. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Sep 15, 2020

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    yeS!
     
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  11. sdre Sep 15, 2020

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    incredible !!!

    only 1 of the gold LM has its original crown... pity about that >.<
     
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  12. bigsom Sep 15, 2020

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    I think you'd love a carved dial if you enjoy the later mk4+ dials. Also if you don't mind smaller watches a mk1 carved with S logo dial!
     
  13. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Sep 15, 2020

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    I'm sure that you are correct. I've flirted with the carved dial versions previously, but never landed one. I actually prefer, in some respects, the variety of the "regular" Marvel line. This is not a great photo (from the original seller):

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  14. sdre Sep 15, 2020

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    looks silver gilt as well... very very very rare to find Seiko with black dials....
     
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  15. bigsom Sep 15, 2020

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    For a S logo marvel especially (ie I would be wary of any black dialed marvel).

    That said S logo marvels (pre LM) are such cool watches and there are a lot out there. Just have to be ok with 30-31mm some of the transitional cases I believe get up to 33mm. The really nice ones are the S logos with SD markings.
     
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  16. sdre Sep 15, 2020

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    was educated on the SD markings on that Seiko video i posted. So much going on which people didnt know of....

    I had the Seiko Silverwave with SD as well.... didnt realize it was SD until yesterday :whipped:
     
  17. chows99 Feb 20, 2021

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    Been very quiet recently as I have somehow achieved Nirvana with my grail acquisition last year.

    However, I got back into the hunting game after reading up on the intricate craftsmanship & history of the Lord Marvel 1st Gen with the carved dial. Learnt alot from online materials and selfless & kind sharing from @sdre and @bigsom. I am blessed to be part of this community.

    With patience and a stroke of luck, i was offered this Lord Marvel 1st Gen Mk2 dial. I am enjoying it so much and now to pair it with a nice and supple taupe epsom leather strap!
     
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  18. chows99 Feb 27, 2021

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    Sunny day brings out the beauty of the Lord Marvel!
     
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  19. smoothsecondscom Feb 28, 2021

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    Stunning dress watch! One of these has to be added to my collection someday.
     
  20. Spinakerr Mar 27, 2021

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    Thanks for posting up this info and the pictures - I recently spotted a Lord Marvel in a job lot of broken Seikos in Japan and then turned up yesterday. Amazingly, the Lord Marvel is in very good condition, dial is almost unblemished - its the J14068, a mk3 with different lugs.

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    Looking forward to getting this one running - missing a jewel and likely dried solid.
     
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