Seiko 6138-8020 Panda arrived UPDATE

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It is a really nice watch. Happy with mine. As the OP writes - beware of redials when looking for one.

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Hi OF,
Just a quick update. I collected it from service on Friday. The new plexi does wonders, the dial is now clearly visible again in it's full beauty. Case was just cleaned, edges are still fairly sharp, engraving on the back is great 馃榾. Now I'm on the hunt for a nice strap, the 19mm Seiko dilemma.
If anyone has suggestions please feel free to post 馃榾 right now BandRBands seems to be the only real option to me. I looked at glc straps but the ones I like are sold out or not available in 19mm.





Cheers,

Max
 
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Lovely watch.

I have 19mm beige classic suede bandrbands strap on my vintage GSeiko and it is nice strap.
 
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Thanks guys!

I was initially after the blue dialed Kakume. But it appears out of the 6138 family the panda is the most sought after, so I thought why not go for the big fish first.

As some mentioned Seiko's are on the up side now value wise, and I wanted to catch the Panda before it again reaches levels I'm not willing to pay at the moment.

I was lucky that this one popped up on eBay, the price was quite steep but after a bit of negotiating with the seller we agreed upon a price both sides where happy with.

One really has to do some DD before dipping into vintage seikos. I was used to this from the speedmaster hunt, and albeit there's a lot of information out there on the 6138's I was missing a reliable source like speedmaster101.
Some of the Info out there is just blatantly wrong.
Especially when it comes down to dials, as the aftermarket for those is huge with seiko.

When you are looking for a Panda, there are some easy clues what to look out for on the dial to spot original from fake/aftermarket:

1. The O in the AML Seiko Logo is always oval and lays on its side.

2. The "Chronograph Automatic" Text and the Seiko Logo are centered on the left side, draw an imaginative vertical line from the S to the C and A ( think like MOY-Test on some of the connys).

3. the Date surround is silver and the insides of the cutout are painted as well (on most of the aftermarket ones it's just a stamp through the metal).

4. color of the date disk should be an off white, not a bright one.

5. there should be tritium Spots on all hour markers.

6. the hour markers have black (not sure if onyx) stripes on top of them (there is some controversy about that).

7. Concerning the Hands, those should be straight, syringe and not tapering down to the front. The subdial hands should have a visible metal "disks" in the middle where they are mounted. Chrono second hand is square base with orange tip (can be faded heavily, I've seen almost white ones).

8. The dial it self should have a vertical linen pattern.
The subdials do not have concentric circles! If they do, that's a dead giveaway for an aftermarket dial!

That's all I can think about at the moment, don't hold me accountable for it, it's just what I gathered and what helped me score the example you see above.



Now it's hunting season for the Kakume. JDM non JDM? Tritium or not? Black or Silver hands?
So much fun with the seikos!







Have a nice day!


Cheers,
Max



My preference was the JDM deep blue dial, royal bezel and silver sundials and hands. Absolutely love the size and look on the wrist.

 
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Sup
Hi Folks, just wanted to share my newest addition to the vintage watch rabbit hole in which I fell after signing up here 馃槈.

As with the current increase in vintage omega prices and most of the models I desire getting out of my reach I had to find something new to scratch the itch.
So I dug into vintage Seiko chronos, did some reading on the history and development of the 6138 movement and took my first plunge.

Today it arrived, and I'm over the moon with joy.



It's all I hoped for and more. Original inner and outer box, and with import papers from Hong Kong to Gatwick dating back to 1974. There is enough gunk and DNA on it to clone the original owner and all of his descendants haha.
I will send it off to my watchmaker now for a service, clean up and a new crystal.


Have a nice week! I will, for sure after this start 馃槈.

Cheers,

Max
Super jealous
 
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Hey guys! I just discovered the Seiko Panda and it looks great! I found this on Ebay. What you guys think about it? What should it be going for?
 
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Thanks guys!

I was initially after the blue dialed Kakume. But it appears out of the 6138 family the panda is the most sought after, so I thought why not go for the big fish first.

As some mentioned Seiko's are on the up side now value wise, and I wanted to catch the Panda before it again reaches levels I'm not willing to pay at the moment.

I was lucky that this one popped up on eBay, the price was quite steep but after a bit of negotiating with the seller we agreed upon a price both sides where happy with.

One really has to do some DD before dipping into vintage seikos. I was used to this from the speedmaster hunt, and albeit there's a lot of information out there on the 6138's I was missing a reliable source like speedmaster101.
Some of the Info out there is just blatantly wrong.
Especially when it comes down to dials, as the aftermarket for those is huge with seiko.

When you are looking for a Panda, there are some easy clues what to look out for on the dial to spot original from fake/aftermarket:

1. The O in the AML Seiko Logo is always oval and lays on its side.

2. The "Chronograph Automatic" Text and the Seiko Logo are centered on the left side, draw an imaginative vertical line from the S to the C and A ( think like MOY-Test on some of the connys).

3. the Date surround is silver and the insides of the cutout are painted as well (on most of the aftermarket ones it's just a stamp through the metal).

4. color of the date disk should be an off white, not a bright one.

5. there should be tritium Spots on all hour markers.

6. the hour markers have black (not sure if onyx) stripes on top of them (there is some controversy about that).

7. Concerning the Hands, those should be straight, syringe and not tapering down to the front. The subdial hands should have a visible metal "disks" in the middle where they are mounted. Chrono second hand is square base with orange tip (can be faded heavily, I've seen almost white ones).

8. The dial it self should have a vertical linen pattern.
The subdials do not have concentric circles! If they do, that's a dead giveaway for an aftermarket dial!

That's all I can think about at the moment, don't hold me accountable for it, it's just what I gathered and what helped me score the example you see above.



Now it's hunting season for the Kakume. JDM non JDM? Tritium or not? Black or Silver hands?
So much fun with the seikos!







Have a nice day!


Cheers,
Max
Thanks for that info I am currently looking around at 6138-6139 seikos. Nice to hear things to look for from someone who knows. I spend some time on Reddit for politics and financial news so of course I look at the watches and Reddit has a sub just for fakes, then a sub for fake seikos, then a sub for fake vintage seikos. It鈥檚 quite a rabbit hole and with people being into modding seikos like they are they pull of some amazing things. Very nice examples you guys have they look great I sometimes wish i could find these types without the day date but seiko just loves those day dates