Seeking Input for Longines 9ct Gold Cal 12.68z

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Hi OF,

I always wanted to own a gold vintage Longines then I came across with this from the bay.
Some info for the seller:

Case: .375 9ct gold case by Baume (UK) with light surface marks
Case diameter: 34mm
Case depth: 10mm
Lug to lug: 17mm
Movement: Longines inhouse cal 12.68z manual wind
Crown: Slight discoloration due to thinning of gold plating
Dial: Original dial with patina and blister mark
Crystal: Acrylic
Strap & Buckle: Generic
Box: Period matched retailer packaging
Asking price: Euro 450

Wanted to seek advice from experts & enthusiasts in OF whether this is a good purchase:

1) My budget is around the asking price. So is this consider fairly priced or I actually can get a better one?
2) Is the movement reliable? Anyone could please share some story & history of the reference and movement. Seems couldnt find any history regarding this from the sticky thread: https://omegaforums.net/threads/longines-vintage-automatics.411/
3) Condition acceptable judging from picture?
4) Wanted to get a period matched buckle. Serial number dated back in 1952. Anyone has an idea where could I get the buckle? How does it look like?

Happy to hear from all of you!
 
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I had a similar reference in steel from the later 1950s (now on my brother in law's wrist) and I found it to be a very reliable and enjoyable watch. I paid about the same as you are considering, about two years ago. Love the movement and it has a good reputation (and was used forever!) You probably didn't find it on the Longines automatics thread because, well... It's not an automatic!

I have questions about the crown, which looks to have a slightly different shade of gold, and about the subseconds dial, which looks a bit off, maybe repainted, and has west from an incorrectly set hand. Case looks good to me. I don't like the dialpatina, but you might! That is a very personal issue...

Several Longines with this movement have been posted for sale here this month at similar prices, and they were much more interesting to my eye. I personally think you can do better! More experienced members please chime in!

Here's my former friend, I still have visitation rights:

 
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The dial on the OP’s watch is original (second post is redone). As for dial condition, it’s a personal thing. The price is pretty low for a solid gold Longines, even if it isn’t Swiss cased.

The calibre 12.68 is one of Longines most reliable and well regarded movements. Made for decades, serviceable and accurate.

Crowns generally I think of as pretty irrelevant. They are a service item.

In my experience, finding a solid gold, 1950’s Longines buckle might set you back a similar amount to the watch. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if the strap and buckle on this watch were early, they look very old.
 
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It should be noted that this case has fixed strap bars, hence the open ended strap, so replacement strap choices are quite limited. Personally, I quite like it, interesting Baume case and it's an OK price I think.
 
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This is a nice piece. Dial is original, in good condition, and an attractive design. All hands look fine too. Case is also a nice design. On some models, original crowns are more important (waterproof cases). In this case, the crown fits the design so I am not bothered about whether it is strictly correct or not. The movement is in typical, gilded finish for the UK market. The caliber 12.68Z was first produced in 1929 and continued to be used into the 1960s. It is a very well made movement with a relatively large balance wheel, no wire springs, and a generally robust construction. Though prevalent, it is really an exceptional movement in terms of quality. Price for this one is fair. Finding an original buckle will be tough, but there's no rush.
 
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The dial on the OP’s watch is original (second post is redone). As for dial condition, it’s a personal thing. The price is pretty low for a solid gold Longines, even if it isn’t Swiss cased.

The calibre 12.68 is one of Longines most reliable and well regarded movements. Made for decades, serviceable and accurate.

Crowns generally I think of as pretty irrelevant. They are a service item.

In my experience, finding a solid gold, 1950’s Longines buckle might set you back a similar amount to the watch. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if the strap and buckle on this watch were early, they look very old.

Is it considered a solid gold? Seller told me it's a 9ct gold. How do we define solid gold? 18ct? Appreciate your input on this 😀

It should be noted that this case has fixed strap bars, hence the open ended strap, so replacement strap choices are quite limited. Personally, I quite like it, interesting Baume case and it's an OK price I think.

Wow. Thanks for highlighting that out. Now I have another trouble to source for strap changeability. I will confirm again with the seller whether is it a fixed bar lug.

This is a nice piece. Dial is original, in good condition, and an attractive design. All hands look fine too. Case is also a nice design. On some models, original crowns are more important (waterproof cases). In this case, the crown fits the design so I am not bothered about whether it is strictly correct or not. The movement is in typical, gilded finish for the UK market. The caliber 12.68Z was first produced in 1929 and continued to be used into the 1960s. It is a very well made movement with a relatively large balance wheel, no wire springs, and a generally robust construction. Though prevalent, it is really an exceptional movement in terms of quality. Price for this one is fair. Finding an original buckle will be tough, but there's no rush.

I had a similar reference in steel from the later 1950s (now on my brother in law's wrist) and I found it to be a very reliable and enjoyable watch. I paid about the same as you are considering, about two years ago. Love the movement and it has a good reputation (and was used forever!) You probably didn't find it on the Longines automatics thread because, well... It's not an automatic!

I have questions about the crown, which looks to have a slightly different shade of gold, and about the subseconds dial, which looks a bit off, maybe repainted, and has west from an incorrectly set hand. Case looks good to me. I don't like the dialpatina, but you might! That is a very personal issue...

Several Longines with this movement have been posted for sale here this month at similar prices, and they were much more interesting to my eye. I personally think you can do better! More experienced members please chime in!

Here's my former friend, I still have visitation rights:


Thanks for input!
 
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I really like it. 👍 Look at those diamond markers. Beautiful case. Amazing clean gold-plated movement. Yeah, the dial has measles, but still, it's an appealing watch.

If you could find a way to disinfect the strap, maybe you could continue to use it. It's awesome. If not, Hirsch sells nice 17mm straps for fixed lug bars.
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Regarding the strap, plenty of options on ebay (type open ended watch strap)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/382432456299

I came across this too. Apparently I need to glue the open loop and hence restricted the strap interchangeability. Anyone tried before some kind of "clip system"?
 
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Even patina with nice diamond hour markers, a clean looking movement and nice 9k case. This would also look nice on a leather nato. What are you waiting for?
 
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Item is on the way to my hand! Can't wait for the delivery.

On a side note, would like to ask how does a period-matched Longines gold buckle supposed to look like? With what kind of Longines logo? This watch serial number dated in 1952, but the "Longines" on the dial is different from the Longines logo history archive.
 
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Baume supplied their own 9ct buckles for these watches. They are pretty hard to come by....

 
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Baume supplied their own 9ct buckles for these watches. They are pretty hard to come by....

Wonderful. It's not Longines signed isnt it?
 
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Finally got it on wrist today. Crown seems like a replacement. Extremely difficult to pull out to the extent my fingernail nearly cracked
 
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Looks great, and bigger than 34mm. I would get it serviced pronto if you are going to keep it. Are you happy with it?
 
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It’s beautiful. Get it serviced.
 
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Can anyone help with this one? About £280 on U.K. eBay charity website

LONGINES .375 9ct YELLOW GOLD Case Vintage Mechanical Wristwatch - P33

might just change the strap but not sure if it is a 30mm watch - site says approx 3cm

 
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Looks good and price is fair. Watch is greater than 30 mm since movement (cal. 30L) is that size.