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Hello there. I'm hoping that some of you may be willing to provide some advice on two watches that I've been watching on eBay. I've attached some photos below with the prices at which they are listed.

1958 Omega Seamaster (Serial No 16600014) – $2,975.00
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1978 Omega Day/Date (Serial No 41277778) – $1,975.00

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Both watches have been recently serviced by an authorised service centre. What would be a fair price to pay for these watches? If I were to purchase one, would it be suitable for daily wear in a professional environment?

Thank you all. I'm hoping to learn through this process and hope I have not contravened the forum rules in any way.
 
Shabbaz
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First one looks like a redial and both watches are worth a couple of hundred. They are ridiculous expensive. I would stop looking, stay around here and learn first. If you really want to buy now start in the sales section here on OF. Hope this helps!
 
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First one looks like a redial and both watches are worth a couple of hundred. They are ridiculous expensive. I would stop looking, stay around here and learn first. If you really want to buy now start in the sales section here on OF. Hope this helps!

I appreciate the response. What are the indicators that the watches are only worth a couple hundred dollars?
 
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I appreciate the response. What are the indicators that the watches are only worth a couple hundred dollars?

Reference, condition, case material, overpolishing, wrong parts, collectability......
 
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I appreciate the response. What are the indicators that the watches are only worth a couple hundred dollars?
If you would stay a year on OF and you would read back this question you would chuckle.

For the money the seller is asking you're in premium connie (constellation) land.

Educate yourself and then buy! 📖
 
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Shabbaz Shabbaz
If you would stay a year on OF and you would read back this question you would chuckle.

That is so true. 😀

For reference, and I’ll ignore stuff like the fake Omega clasp and strap or the Omega service box that has nothing to do with the watch:

Take the reference number of both watches, so the number that’s in the caseback, not the serial# of the movement. Then go to eBay and search for “Omega 2990” for example, replacing the 2990 here with the reference number of the watch you’re looking for. If you scroll down in the filters, you can select “sold articles”. Do that and you’ll see for what money those watches actually sold and I promise you, you’ll find it’s in the triple digits.

I sold a good example of the second one you posted this summer, albeit a date version. It went for 460€.
 
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Too overpriced as stated above I would suggest that if you are into this style of watches spent some time in the OF trust me you will learn so much and there are a lot of members that are willing to help you and guide you to buy something that is value for money! Also scroll a bit into the private watch sales to see the market prices , watch omega enthusiasts videos which are also very helpful .
 
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Pick the one watch you love and research it as much as you can.

what’s your budget?
 
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In addition to what was previously said, movement shots are also vital when trying to figure out if a watch is genuine, a "franken" or a complete fake.
 
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MtV MtV
Take the reference number of both watches, so the number that’s in the caseback, not the serial# of the movement. Then go to eBay and search for “Omega 2990” for example, replacing the 2990 here with the reference number of the watch you’re looking for. If you scroll down in the filters, you can select “sold articles”. Do that and you’ll see for what money those watches actually sold and I promise you, you’ll find it’s in the triple digits.

I sold a good example of the second one you posted this summer, albeit a date version. It went for 460€.

I really appreciate this advice. Will do, thank you.

STANDY STANDY
Pick the one watch you love and research it as much as you can.

what’s your budget?

I like many of the 60s and 70s Seamasters and Seamaster De Villes. I'd be willing to spend up to $1000 AUD. If you have any suggestions I'd love to hear (or see) them.
 
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I really appreciate this advice. Will do, thank you.



I like many of the 60s and 70s Seamasters and Seamaster De Villes. I'd be willing to spend up to $1000 AUD. If you have any suggestions I'd love to hear (or see) them.

Simply do your learning and shopping on the sales sections of this site and you will be safer than on Ebay or other sales sites 👍
 
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I like many of the 60s and 70s Seamasters and Seamaster De Villes. I'd be willing to spend up to $1000 AUD. If you have any suggestions I'd love to hear (or see) them.

This covers a wide range of models, including dressy SM De Villes, sporty Cosmic 2000s, classic smart allrounders from the 60s and boxy 70s Seamasters with a bit more attitude. If you work out what it is you want the watch for (smart occasions, work in an office, weekend casual, every day all rounder, conversation starter) that would help. Focusing on one or two references really helps you to learn what one ought to look like, good market price, condition range, etc. Budget is important too, as @STANDY has said.

Above all, don’t be in a hurry! You’ll save $$$ in the long run.
 
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This covers a wide range of models, including dressy SM De Villes, sporty Cosmic 2000s, classic smart allrounders from the 60s and boxy 70s Seamasters with a bit more attitude. If you work out what it is you want the watch for (smart occasions, work in an office, weekend casual, every day all rounder, conversation starter) that would help. Focusing on one or two references really helps you to learn what one ought to look like, good market price, condition range, etc. Budget is important too, as @STANDY has said.

Above all, don’t be in a hurry! You’ll save $$$ in the long run.

Yes, I see, thank you. I'm really after something to wear in the office on a daily basis. I'll narrow down to a couple references and go from there!
 
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at the watches are only worth a couple hundred dollars?

For a more palatable horo-edutainment, you could watch omega enthusiasts videos on the reference you like. Nothing will beat spending hours and hours here on OF researching your choice/grail reference. Somewhere here on OF I did mention snagging up a mint state call 711/2 deVille for under $300 in a week-day ending auction on the bay. So education will go a long way in saving hundreds of $$$. As for service, if the watch doesn't have service papers, it wasn't serviced. If you would have been interested in Connies, I have such similar stories to share...even in today's day and age, *with* OF visibility added to boot - and mostly with help of OF members, it is possible to find and grab awesome examples on the bay (eBay!) if not on OF. I think there is a thread at the top of this page for eBay recommendations too.
 
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Whatever dealer is offering these pieces at these prices has no shame. Steer clear of them and follow the advice above.

Alternately, feel free to act in haste and repent in leisure.
 
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My recommendations for daily office wear would be a nice, clean 1960s Seamaster or Seamaster De Ville (an area you are already looking in, which is good). If you can stretch your budget a bit, a C-case Constellation will serve you very well. I have one that is my go-to daily office wearer:
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Another good thread to get to grips with is the WRUW Today? thread in Open Discussion. You’ll see a variety of office-friendly watches there, and that might help you to find that narrow range of references. Though you will also find about 50 more watches that you suddenly decide you want as well.

Welcome to the madness...
 
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