Searching from cal to case

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Peter_from_NL

·Mar 13, 2020

Hi there. I just acquired this 1965 Seamaster dial, crown and 562 caliber only. Now I need to source an appropriate case and crystal.

It is pretty easy to find matching cal. numbers with a case number. Anybody any idea how I can do it the other way around? Hence, what cases have originally been used for this watch?

Thanks!!!!

 

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OMEGuy

·Mar 13, 2020

I think this should be good for a ref. 166.002.

 

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ChrisN

·Mar 13, 2020

OMEGuy

I think this should be good for a ref. 166.002.

With the split stem and those case clamps, I'd suspect a 166.020 front loader. You can't say for sure without trying it or getting some dimensions so, it will not be easy to buy a case with certainty.

And @aps26469 don't handle the movement with bare fingers - you'll not do it any good.

Good luck, Chris

 

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OMEGuy

·Mar 13, 2020

Agree. The case clamps make more sense with a 166.020.

Well, it's only just a slight swap of digits, isn't it? 😵‍💫

 

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Peter_from_NL

·Mar 13, 2020

Up to now I have the list below compiled but no idea how correct this is

14701
14910
14743
14763
14730
14760
166.0001
166.0009
166.0013

 

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Peter_from_NL

·Mar 13, 2020

Thanks all. Will start looking around.

 

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Peter_from_NL

·Mar 13, 2020

If I search on 166.020 I end up with a mid 70’s watch. This cal has a 1965 serial number.

edit: ignore, wrong observation

 

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sonicosa

·Mar 13, 2020

Is that a casing ring in the first pic?

You can also filter by 562 movement here and look for the Seamaster Deville watches: https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/vintage-watches

 

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tdn-dk

·Mar 13, 2020

I vote for ref. 166.020

Here 562 caliber references.

 

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Lacazema

·Mar 13, 2020

tdn-dk

I vote for ref. 166.020

Here 562 caliber references.

Where do you find such ressources ? The vintage omega website isn't this in-depth

 

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tdn-dk

·Mar 13, 2020

Lacazema

Where do you find such ressources ? The vintage omega website isn't this in-depth

https://web.archive.org/web/20141103010552/http://naligazone.com/index.php/data-watch/omega

 

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Peter_from_NL

·Mar 13, 2020

sonicosa

s that a casing ring in the first pic?

Correct!

 

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Peter_from_NL

·Mar 13, 2020

Great. It seems indeed that the 166.020 is the correct one. Cannot find this however.

I found one 166.002 which also seems like a fit. And the. Have it gold plated. Not 100% original but still not period wrong.

opinions?

 

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sonicosa

·Mar 13, 2020

aps26469

Great. It seems indeed that the 166.020 is the correct one. Cannot find this however.

I found one 166.002 which also seems like a fit. And the. Have it gold plated. Not 100% original but still not period wrong.

opinions?

You could always pick up the 166.022 so you could wear it for a while and save an ebay search for the 166.020. I'm sure one would pop up eventually.

Guessing you'll need the other half of the stem and a crown too?

That dial is in really nice condition. Congrats!

 

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Peter_from_NL

·Mar 13, 2020

sonicosa

Guessing you'll need the other half of the stem and a crown too?

No I have the crown. It has the other side of the stem inside.

 

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sonicosa

·Mar 13, 2020

aps26469

No I have the crown. It has the other side of the stem inside.

Nice. I love projects like this.

Here is a 166.041 I just finished putting together and am planning to take in for a service next week:

 

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Peter_from_NL

·Mar 13, 2020

sonicosa

Nice. I love projects like this.

Here is a 166.041 I just finished putting together and am planning to take in for a service next week:

Nice, is this now blue or black?

 

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sonicosa

·Mar 13, 2020

aps26469

Nice, is this now blue or black?

It's blue, still has the film on the crystal which might be dulling it a bit. Looks great when the sun hits it. Here's another pic next to a more aged / patinated dial. I believe the orange second hand is correct for this reference / dial combo, but I really like the blue on blue.

 

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ChrisN

·Mar 13, 2020

You have a 2 piece stem (one part in the movement and one in the crown) because this movement came from a front loading case. Also the case clamps are for a front loading case.

For a case such as a 166.002, you would expect a one piece stem and different case clamps. You can find out which parts go with each case.

You are also assuming that the dial is the same diameter for both cases and I wouldn't guarantee that.

All I'm trying to say is that you may not find it easy to fit a 166.020 dial/movement to a 166.002 case and may end up spending additional to do that. Better to get the correct case and save any possible hassle.

Good luck, Chris

 

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X350 XJR

·Mar 13, 2020·Vintage Omega Aficionado

If you are simply looking for a case to fit, don't forget the US references KL6292, LL6287, KM6292, LL6590, KM6610 and LL6606 as well as the ROW 14765.