Seamaster black dial. Is it genuine?

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I found these pictures on local watch enthusiast forum. Watch sold but I still wonder if it is legit.
1/ Yes? Then a scarily well preserved time piece (18K Seamaster with cal 354, 17 jewels 14M serial number UNADJUSTED)
2/ No? How did redialers do that nowsaday?

Thanks for your insight
 
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Not original - the Seamaster font is incorrect. Definitely high quality print, though.

Agree, very high quality.

To me it is the "SWISS MADE" that is the immediate red flag.
 
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Agree, very high quality.
To me it is the "SWISS MADE" that is the immediate red flag.
Did you mean incorrect fonts or there should not be "SWISS MADE" wordings?

As redials go, that's a damn good one.
Freaking good redial indeed
 
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Did you mean incorrect fonts or there should not be "SWISS MADE" wordings?


Freaking good redial indeed

It may just be the crystal, but the location seems a bit off to me.
 
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I think the minute tracks were thicker than usual too?
I agree with others that this one was good quality done.
 
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Looks legit to me. But I would want more pics to be sure.
 
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Dial should look more like this. That case looks overly polished as well.

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Hard to assess gold cases from photos since light reflection makes them look smooth
 
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The first giveaway for me is the position of the word Omega directly below the Ω.
As a result, the OMEGA and AUTOMATIC are also not correctly positioned in relation to each other.

The left upright bar of the letter "E" is too far to the left, it should be centred almost directly below the centre of the gap of the Ω.

A nice redial though.
 
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The pictures confirm this to be a redial - Swiss Made position is the most obvious to me. Regardless: Whoever produced this and could, with a few adjustments, make our lives more difficult.
 
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Imagine what it must have been like to have been able to get one of these brand new, back in the day😲. As a collectable piece it's not good, re dial, polished etc. but a as a restoration, it would be a lovely watch to wear, I think.
 
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Imagine what it must have been like to have been able to get one of these brand new, back in the day😲. As a collectable piece it's not good, re dial, polished etc. but a as a restoration, it would be a lovely watch to wear, I think.

Oh, absolutely. Let's not kid ourselves, the amount of people who'll spot this as a redial on your wrist in everyday-life will be zero.
 
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I believe "S" letter in Seamaster should be a coat hanger to be period correct (on 40-50s era Omega watch). If the redialer is capable of such a remarkable job why did not he (or she?) reproduce this coat hanger?
I agreed with @BAJJ about this is a nice looking watch for wear although not suitable for collectors.
On a sidenote, based on high quality print I wonder if by any chance this dial has been "factory restored" by Omega... or even this is simply a service dial?
I alread asked here on OF about a dial of a 50s era Seamaster. There is the same "mistake" related to coat hanger on "Seamaster" font. Below is the photo of the other Seamaster I bought locally here in Vietnam (cal 355 in stainless steel case)
Sorry for my bad English 😀

 
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Agree, very high quality.

To me it is the "SWISS MADE" that is the immediate red flag.
Agreed, that was my first thought.

Very nice redial indeed
 
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I believe "S" letter in Seamaster should be a coat hanger to be period correct (on 40-50s era Omega watch). If the redialer is capable of such a remarkable job why did not he (or she?) reproduce this coat hanger?
I agreed with @BAJJ about this is a nice looking watch for wear although not suitable for collectors.
On a sidenote, based on high quality print I wonder if by any chance this dial has been "factory restored" by Omega... or even this is simply a service dial?
I alread asked here on OF about a dial of a 50s era Seamaster. There is the same "mistake" related to coat hanger on "Seamaster" font. Below is the photo of the other Seamaster I bought locally here in Vietnam (cal 355 in stainless steel case)
Sorry for my bad English 😀

Not so. There are plenty of 40s and 50s Omega with rounded S Seamaster script. They were used alongside the coat hanger style. The S shape does vary though and the one in the OP watch looks more like that used today maybe.
 
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Not so. There are plenty of 40s and 50s Omega with rounded S Seamaster script. They were used alongside the coat hanger style. The S shape does vary though and the one in the OP watch looks more like that used today maybe.
@padders
If you talked about MY Seamaster (stainless steel case) then it is precisely what I want to ask OF now:
How that redialer (assuming it is a redone dial but I still suspect a service dial) forgot to use “correct” S shape on an well executed work?
Thank you in advance for insights.