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Spruce
··Sunburst dial fan
Someone will post if I’m wrong but it looks like a cut and paste job to me. Since when did Omega get the wrong movement in a photo, cross it out (roughly) and correct it by hand
Seamaster bezel cut-always at crown area
Someone will post if I’m wrong but it looks like a cut and paste job to me. Since when did Omega get the wrong movement in a photo, cross it out (roughly) and correct it by hand
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OneTwo
·Someone will post if I’m wrong but it looks like a cut and paste job to me. Since when did Omega get the wrong movement in a photo, cross it out (roughly) and correct it by hand
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Wlcutter
·This is a 14744, untouched, from the original owner, and these of course have the same cases as the later 166.010/168.024. Scalloped crown and *yes* there's a cutaway for the crown.
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Hipp
·Someone will post if I’m wrong but it looks like a cut and paste job to me. Since when did Omega get the wrong movement in a photo, cross it out (roughly) and correct it by hand
Fair enough. This photo I posted earlier is also from a 1964 Omega catalogue. This one is perhaps less convincing but when blown up this 166.010 looks to have a notch near the crown as well.
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Spruce
··Sunburst dial fanI didn’t think this thread would get so extended but, all I can say is that my 166.010, regardless of the type of crown, has no indentation.
The photo you posted earlier (and reproduced here by me) looks as though someone has tried to operate on the bezel with a chisel or inappropriate tool and, subsequently, tried to hide the damage section by replacing the damaged bezel adjacent to the crown.
I do have a couple of 165.003 watches designed to have a semi-recessed crown and
you can see that the case is shaped rather than damaged in the way your .024 looks to be.
The photo you posted earlier (and reproduced here by me) looks as though someone has tried to operate on the bezel with a chisel or inappropriate tool and, subsequently, tried to hide the damage section by replacing the damaged bezel adjacent to the crown.
I do have a couple of 165.003 watches designed to have a semi-recessed crown and
you can see that the case is shaped rather than damaged in the way your .024 looks to be.
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Davidt
·Just calling this as I see it.
1. I’ve never noticed any indent on the bezel of any similar references I own or have owned.
2. I think several pictures have been presented here as examples of bezels with an indent when in fact what can be seen is simply shadow from the crown.
1. I’ve never noticed any indent on the bezel of any similar references I own or have owned.
2. I think several pictures have been presented here as examples of bezels with an indent when in fact what can be seen is simply shadow from the crown.
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Hipp
·Mine could very well have been damaged @Spruce.
I was recently on the hunt for both a 168.024 and 166.010, so I have seen quite a few examples over the last few months. Majority I saw did have a groove which is why I believed they originally came with one, It seemed strange to me for instance that some 166.010's would have the original scalloped crown but then have a replacement bezel (like the example @Wlcutter has shown), unless they originally came like that.
I'm just a newbie and still learning but if the consensus from the older/wiser members is that the un-notched crown is correct I'll accept that.
I was recently on the hunt for both a 168.024 and 166.010, so I have seen quite a few examples over the last few months. Majority I saw did have a groove which is why I believed they originally came with one, It seemed strange to me for instance that some 166.010's would have the original scalloped crown but then have a replacement bezel (like the example @Wlcutter has shown), unless they originally came like that.
I'm just a newbie and still learning but if the consensus from the older/wiser members is that the un-notched crown is correct I'll accept that.
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Davidt
·I’d be really interested to see pictures clearly showing a notched bezel.
I think it very uncommon for a basic steel bezels to be replaced so most watches from the 60’s will still be sporting the one they came with (anodised aluminium bezels with a raise and protruding profile as on the Speedmaster are different as they are much more prone to knocks and visible damage).
I still think many ‘notches’ shown here are just shadow. If a high number can be shown to be genuine concavities, not simply resulting from damage, it’s reasonable to think they came this way from Omega.
I think it very uncommon for a basic steel bezels to be replaced so most watches from the 60’s will still be sporting the one they came with (anodised aluminium bezels with a raise and protruding profile as on the Speedmaster are different as they are much more prone to knocks and visible damage).
I still think many ‘notches’ shown here are just shadow. If a high number can be shown to be genuine concavities, not simply resulting from damage, it’s reasonable to think they came this way from Omega.
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Hipp
·@Davidt, what is your opinion on this 166.010 that was just posted by _ryan_. To me this seems all original given the condition and correct scalloped crown, so I'd assume the bezel is original too. It also looks to me like it has a notch or am I seeing things?
https://omegaforums.net/threads/sharing-an-omega-166-010.156253/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/sharing-an-omega-166-010.156253/
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tamura
·Both have it.. 165010
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·@Davidt, what is your opinion on this 166.010 that was just posted by _ryan_. To me this seems all original given the condition and correct scalloped crown, so I'd assume the bezel is original too. It also looks to me like it has a notch or am I seeing things?
https://omegaforums.net/threads/sharing-an-omega-166-010.156253/
I think it looks like it may have a concave area but we’d need the owner or someone who has the watch in hand to confirm. That’s where evidence will come from, not photos or catalogues.
@tamura do you have those watches in hand to confirm they have the notched area?
I’m absolutely not saying watches don’t have it, but I personally haven’t seen/noticed it. I think it’s possible, certainly if @tamura and others can confirm from live examples.
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tamura
·It is on the case and bezel.
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··Sunburst dial fanWell, I’ve checked and re-checked. I don’t see it.
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dsio
··Ash @ ΩFHere’s one out of Japan where the crown is pulled out such that there is an air gap and no shadow
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·I currently have five of these in-hand (165.010, 166.010, 168.024, and two 166.009). Only one has no notch. Of the others, there are two types of notches, one that goes all the way through to the top surface of the bezel, and one that cuts into the side of the bezel but can't be seen from the top.
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p_rover
·Is it possible that Omega had their cases made from different factories, hence the different bezels?
Or do you guys know if 166.010/168.024 bezel is compatible with other references?
I see so many different bezel notches... 😕
Or do you guys know if 166.010/168.024 bezel is compatible with other references?
I see so many different bezel notches... 😕
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